Reminder- Self assessment deadline is tonight 31/01/2015

Reminder- Self assessment deadline is tonight 31/01/2015

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Yazar

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1,476 posts

120 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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Saw a news headline, which made me remember that email the accountant sent me months ago. Was difficult finding the online banking pin pad with phone torch app and making minimal noise to not wake up oh laugh

If this reminder helps you then please note that there is a fee of £2 to be given to that bloke in the supermarket holding the bucket for charity wink

Eric Mc

121,992 posts

265 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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Submitted my last two yesterday. Saturday for me will be a day of rest.

schmunk

4,399 posts

125 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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I had a little moment of panic this morning worrying that I gangrene submitted mine. I know I have, but I don't *know* I have...

Eric Mc

121,992 posts

265 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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"Gangrene?

Is this a tax expression I'm not aware of?

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

157 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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It never ceases to amaze me the numbers that leave it to the last minute.

I did mine last July and paid what I owed a couple of weeks ago.

Eric Mc

121,992 posts

265 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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It doesn't amaze me at all.

The human race is divided into three types -

the over anxious - who want to do everything early

the normal - who do things in a reasonable time

the last minuters - who leave everything to the last minute.

Most of my clients fall in category 1 and 2, but there ios still a sizeable element in category 3

The Leaper

4,953 posts

206 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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HMRC should increase the fine from £100 to a more painful level, say, £1000 which will probably mean that more returns will be filed by the deadline, but they will not do this because of the money made by the £millions from the current £100 fine.

R.

Eric Mc

121,992 posts

265 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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It's only the initial fine that is £100. If you delay much further, you could end up receiving penalties in the order of £1,200.

There are also penalty surcharges on late paid tax.

The Leaper

4,953 posts

206 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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Yes I know Eric. It just seems odd that the fine for non delivery of the return is only £100, given the number of people who miss the deadline having had the best part of 10 months to do so.

R.

Eric Mc

121,992 posts

265 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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The Leaper said:
Yes I know Eric. It just seems odd that the fine for non delivery of the return is only £100, given the number of people who miss the deadline having had the best part of 10 months to do so.

R.
It's not "only £100". That's the point I was making. It's INITIALLY £100 but climbs rapidly as follows -


Miss filing deadline



£100



30 days late

5% of tax due



3 months late



Daily penalty £10 per day for up to 90 days (max £900)


6 months late



5% of tax due or £300, if greater



6 months late

5% of tax outstanding at that date

12 months late



5% or £300 if greater, unless the

taxpayer is held to be deliberately withholding information that would enable HMRC to assess the tax due.



12 months late

5% of tax outstanding at that date

12 months & taxpayer deliberately withholds information



Based on behaviour:

deliberate and concealed withholding 100% of tax due, or £300 if greater.
deliberate but not concealed 70% of tax due, or £300 if greater.
Reductions apply for prompted and unprompted disclosures and telling, giving and helping.

Sheepshanks

32,749 posts

119 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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Eric Mc said:
The human race is divided into three types -
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the last minuters - who leave everything to the last minute.
I know the SA filing deadline isn't going to go away, but that apart, I tend to leave everything until the last minute. That way, a lot of things deal with themselves or just go away. The odd thing turns into a complete disaster but I haven't yet been able to determine whether I should change my approach.

Even with the SA, I might get run over by a bus before the deadline so would have wasted a few hours.

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

157 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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Eric Mc said:
The human race is divided into three types -

the over anxious - who want to do everything early

the normal - who do things in a reasonable time

the last minuters - who leave everything to the last minute.
Nahhh, just two.

The organised.

The disorganised.

schmunk

4,399 posts

125 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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Double checked. TR filled in November. No gangrene.

trowelhead

1,867 posts

121 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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Mine was submitted late last week. Must admit I always leave it until last minute then stress out.

Might get next years done at least before Xmas!

It is a liberating feeling getting it sent in

trowelhead

1,867 posts

121 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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Sheepshanks said:
I know the SA filing deadline isn't going to go away, but that apart, I tend to leave everything until the last minute. That way, a lot of things deal with themselves or just go away. The odd thing turns into a complete disaster but I haven't yet been able to determine whether I should change my approach.

Even with the SA, I might get run over by a bus before the deadline so would have wasted a few hours.
I'm like this. Seems to work out well. For example I can get 12 months bookkeeping done in about 2-3 hours just before the deadline. That seems more sense to me than spending for example 30 mins each week. Batching tasks and being strategically last minute...

Also I don't understand why people would pay their tax early. I'd rather money earning interest in my account until deadline day!

Eric Mc

121,992 posts

265 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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There is no requirement to pay your tax early (unless you need to make Payments on Account). Even if you file the return in June, the main payment date will still be the following 31 January.

sumo69

2,164 posts

220 months

Sunday 1st February 2015
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Eric Mc said:
Submitted my last two yesterday. Saturday for me will be a day of rest.
Lucky you - I had 3 stragglers and the worst of these was still pulling numbers together for his accounts at 7-30 pm last night 😈 - the return went in at 11pm!

He is buying the Mrs and me dinner at a restaurant of our choice together with his augmented bill! 😉

David

Eric Mc

121,992 posts

265 months

Sunday 1st February 2015
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It's the least he could do.

I was determined that I wasn't going to be trying to submit returns on Saturday.

I had three out of my client list that didn't make it - but they weren't able to get the required information to me. Everyone who got information to me, beat the deadline.

I'm taking a few days off this week to recover.

droopsnoot

11,923 posts

242 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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Eric Mc said:
There is no requirement to pay your tax early (unless you need to make Payments on Account). Even if you file the return in June, the main payment date will still be the following 31 January.
I was under that impression, until you corrected me in another thread, so I'll probably do mine earlier this time around. Apart from anything else, doing it earlier will remove some of the abstract nature of the dates invovled - I had to keep checking and rechecking that I was dealing with the correct date range because it's so far back. Finally did mine on Wednesday, which is early for me.

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

233 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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PurpleMoonlight said:
Eric Mc said:
The human race is divided into three types -

the over anxious - who want to do everything early

the normal - who do things in a reasonable time

the last minuters - who leave everything to the last minute.
Nahhh, just two.

The organised.

The disorganised.
yes

I have had the pleasure of doing a considerable number of things in very good time before finding 90% of the work I have done has to be binned due to last minute changes or information that comes to light.

As such I do leave my return until January.

Throughout the year I put all the things I will need to the return in one folder (Coding Notices, P60's Little card with GovGate number, copy of last year's return for reference, etc.) Then I start to fill the form out over a couple of nights. Usually then sit back for a week or so, double check, submit and pay.

Last minute? Possibly.

Disorganised? Definitely not.