Removing a cherished plate

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liner33

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10,690 posts

202 months

Sunday 1st February 2015
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Having not done this before I'm struggling to find clear guidance on it

I have a cherished plate on my car and the car will be traded in in a couple of months time , I would like to keep the plate so that I could potentially transfer it to another car either now or in the summer.

The car its currently on is less than 3 years old so not mot'd if that makes a difference

How do the new tax laws come into it ?


outnumbered

4,084 posts

234 months

Sunday 1st February 2015
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You need to apply to the DVLA in Swansea to put the private plate on retention, they will probably give you the original registration back to put on the car instead.

https://www.gov.uk/personalised-vehicle-registrati...

You must do this well in advance of selling the car, as it can take several weeks to be processed, and if you sell the car with the private plate on it, you will lose the plate.

liner33

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10,690 posts

202 months

Sunday 1st February 2015
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The car has only ever had this plate , we assigned it from new , does that make a difference ?

S5V8

3,306 posts

146 months

Sunday 1st February 2015
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no it wont matter.

Just fill in a V317 and send it off with the V5 and the payment and you will get a retention certificate back and they will assign you an age specific plate ie a 11 or 62 plate.

its straightforward and if you are selling it in a couple of months I would do it as soon asa poss. They say it can take 6 weeks but its likely to only take two but dont take any chances.

liner33

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202 months

Sunday 1st February 2015
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cheers guys

pad58

12,545 posts

181 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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outnumbered said:
You need to apply to the DVLA in Swansea to put the private plate on retention, they will probably give you the original registration back to put on the car instead.

https://www.gov.uk/personalised-vehicle-registrati...

You must do this well in advance of selling the car, as it can take several weeks to be processed, and if you sell the car with the private plate on it, you will lose the plate.
Pardon me ,but would I need a printer for this?

richs2891

897 posts

253 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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Does anyone know what the average time to transfer a plate for is ? Going through the same new car arriving in March ?

SK425

1,034 posts

149 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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outnumbered said:
You need to apply to the DVLA in Swansea to put the private plate on retention, they will probably give you the original registration back to put on the car instead.

https://www.gov.uk/personalised-vehicle-registrati...

You must do this well in advance of selling the car, as it can take several weeks to be processed, and if you sell the car with the private plate on it, you will lose the plate.
When I bought my car it still had the previous owner's private plate on. A few weeks later, I got confirmation that the transfer of the plate back to the previous owner was complete (I guess they'd started the process before they traded the car in to the dealer - or at least, before I bought it) and I switched on to the normal plates the dealer had given me.

I'm sure it will be important to follow the process properly, and I can't advise on what the process is because I wasn't doing it, but it seems that selling the car with the private plate still on doesn't have to mean losing the plate.

S5V8

3,306 posts

146 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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pad58 said:
Pardon me ,but would I need a printer for this?
or get one from the post office.

S5V8

3,306 posts

146 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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richs2891 said:
Does anyone know what the average time to transfer a plate for is ? Going through the same new car arriving in March ?
Its only taking about 10 days at the moment but its not worth the risk as they say it can take up to 6 weeks. I would send it off now to make sure.

S5V8

3,306 posts

146 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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SK425 said:
When I bought my car it still had the previous owner's private plate on. A few weeks later, I got confirmation that the transfer of the plate back to the previous owner was complete (I guess they'd started the process before they traded the car in to the dealer - or at least, before I bought it) and I switched on to the normal plates the dealer had given me.

I'm sure it will be important to follow the process properly, and I can't advise on what the process is because I wasn't doing it, but it seems that selling the car with the private plate still on doesn't have to mean losing the plate.
Not if it goes through a dealer no as the paperwork was already sent off. I assume this was prior to Oct 14 though as if you bought a car from a dealer today and the transfer was already going through you couldn't tax the new car without the V5 (which would be on its way or at the DVLA) so you would have to wait for it to come back with the new reg on before you could tax it.

timbo999

1,293 posts

255 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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Putting a plate on retention is not the same as transferring the plate and is much quicker.

Strictly, to transfer the plate you need to 'own' (or at least be the registered keeper of) both vehicles. Much easier and safer to put the plate on retention and then put it on the new car once you have it as a separate transaction - especially so if the new car is second hand, i.e. already registered.

When I put my plate on retention recently it took 7 days for the new reg doc to arrive with the new reg on.

One tip is, if you do take the new car with its existing reg, is to keep the physical plates so you can put them back on when you sell it (after you've put your personal number on retention again).

I appear to be rambling now... must be later that I thought!

pad58

12,545 posts

181 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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S5V8 said:
pad58 said:
Pardon me ,but would I need a printer for this?
or get one from the post office.
Thank you.

GTIAlex

1,935 posts

166 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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As you seem to have your answer can I hijack this please to save me starting another topic.


I have a classic mini which is off the road, has been off the road for coming up to two years with a private plate on it.

I would like to put this plate, on one of my other current cars.

The mini has no valid MOT.


Is this possible? Or do I have to wait until the Mini is back on the road, with a valid MOT until I can transfer the reg across?

S5V8

3,306 posts

146 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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Both cars have to have MOT and tax for it to work.

Not knowing the mini's history perhaps its better if you give the DVLA a call for advice as some old plates are not transferable.

They will advise the easiest course of action.

SK425

1,034 posts

149 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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S5V8 said:
Not if it goes through a dealer no as the paperwork was already sent off. I assume this was prior to Oct 14 though as if you bought a car from a dealer today and the transfer was already going through you couldn't tax the new car without the V5 (which would be on its way or at the DVLA) so you would have to wait for it to come back with the new reg on before you could tax it.
Ah, thanks. Yes, it was prior to October last year (but only just - it was the middle of September smile). Things are maybe different these days then.


Adrian E

3,248 posts

176 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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This link covers it:

https://www.gov.uk/personalised-vehicle-registrati...

By inference that a pre-1960 vehicle must have a valid MOT to transfer a plate, it does suggest that a later vehicle may not have to have one. Haven't downloaded the form, but recall reading on here a suggestion that DVLA were reasonably flexible on this assuming you've owned the vehicle for a while and it's all correctly SORN'd etc

GTIAlex

1,935 posts

166 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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Okay thanks for the help, seems as though it will be best just to give them a call.

The plate was put on the mini by myself as it was once my grandfathers so is of great sentimental value so Iv'e got a, hopefully irrational, fear of me or the DVLA messing up and me losing it, so i'd rather have it on a car that im using, than a car that may be sat for another few years.

BigBob

1,471 posts

225 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2015
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richs2891 said:
Does anyone know what the average time to transfer a plate for is ? Going through the same new car arriving in March ?
I've done two in the last month and in both cases it was about 2 weeks.

HTH

BB

liner33

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10,690 posts

202 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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I thought I would update this

One of the cars required taxing before I could start the process and also was due its mot on 1/3/15 so I had to get all that done before I could send it off and then my wife who was a registered keeper went off on business so was a bit delayed

So last Monday 23/2/15 I sent all the paperwork off recorded delivery , this morning 4/3/15 I got back two new logbooks with it all sorted , didnt however get my MOT certificate back so hoping that will arrive in time

Pretty impressed with that really , no big deal if the certificate doesn't turn up as I will re-mot the car in about August so I dont need to battle the snow again