Whats Lewis waiting for?

Whats Lewis waiting for?

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rubystone

11,254 posts

259 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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StevieBee said:
I've always likened champion drivers to cats.



The only driver of this ilk that I can think of that this didn't apply to was Jacques Villnenuve
Didn't he desert the sinking ship that was Williams in '98 and take BAR's lucre for the next 5 years?

patmahe

5,750 posts

204 months

Friday 13th February 2015
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StevieBee said:
I've always likened champion drivers to cats.

Feed a cat and show it love and it will hang around. Stop feeding it and showing it love and it will very quickly disappear elsewhere of its own accord.

As soon as Lewis' diet of race wins and championships becomes more fugal, he'll be off. See Alonso and Vettel for more information.

The only driver of this ilk that I can think of that this didn't apply to was Jacques Villnenuve
To be fair to Alonso, he gave Ferrari every chance before throwing in the towel.

rubystone

11,254 posts

259 months

Friday 13th February 2015
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patmahe said:
To be fair to Alonso, he gave Ferrari every chance before throwing in the towel.
Agreed

lbc

3,215 posts

217 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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Lewis is aiming for 1 million pound a week contract. 50 million per year over 3 years.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/formulaone/art...

London424

12,829 posts

175 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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Smart guy...will be interesting to see how it plays out.

AKA PABS

316 posts

122 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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Well if he gets that deal good on him, you don't ask you don't get.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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London424 said:
Smart guy...will be interesting to see how it plays out.
They'd be crazy to pay him that. This year, as last (as usual, in fact) the car's the star. There are half a dozen drivers who could have and would win the championship in this Mercedes car.


anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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StevieBee said:
I've always likened champion drivers to cats.

Feed a cat and show it love and it will hang around. Stop feeding it and showing it love and it will very quickly disappear elsewhere of its own accord.

As soon as Lewis' diet of race wins and championships becomes more fugal, he'll be off. See Alonso and Vettel for more information.

The only driver of this ilk that I can think of that this didn't apply to was Jacques Villnenuve
Fugal? Do you mean when he stops blowing his own horn?

Some Gump

12,689 posts

186 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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REALIST123 said:
StevieBee said:
I've always likened champion drivers to cats.

Feed a cat and show it love and it will hang around. Stop feeding it and showing it love and it will very quickly disappear elsewhere of its own accord.

As soon as Lewis' diet of race wins and championships becomes more fugal, he'll be off. See Alonso and Vettel for more information.

The only driver of this ilk that I can think of that this didn't apply to was Jacques Villnenuve
Fugal? Do you mean when he stops blowing his own horn?
Jacques viellneuve? The bloke that claimed he could single handedly make Honda a winner, failed, then flounced off to indycar in a huff when it became apparent that the year he dominated, he had a much better car than anyone else?

He's been generally moaning and sticking his 2p in ever since. Like his murphys, clearly not bitter.

As for hamilton, imo he can't command that salary at all. Merc know that if they put any current f1 driver other than maldonado in that seat, they'd have won both the championships last year anyway. Hamilton's performance vs button was close enough to make every thread mentioning them run to 6 tedious pages.
Yes, he's talented - but so are many others. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he's worth 30m a year as a driver. His sole usp in my opinion is is his marketability - and i don't see 20m a year in that...

Walford

2,259 posts

166 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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REALIST123 said:
They'd be crazy to pay him that. This year, as last (as usual, in fact) the car's the star. There are half a dozen drivers who could have and would win the championship in this Mercedes car.
and one that did'nt

Some Gump

12,689 posts

186 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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Walford said:
and one that did'nt
Well obviously. But y'oud know that, right?

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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Walford said:
REALIST123 said:
They'd be crazy to pay him that. This year, as last (as usual, in fact) the car's the star. There are half a dozen drivers who could have and would win the championship in this Mercedes car.
and one that did'nt
Really? rolleyes

Schermerhorn

4,342 posts

189 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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The type of people Lewis Hamilton appeals to aren't really Mercedes drivers in my opinion.

His marketing reach is very limited in my opinion. He is in a sport that not many of us will be able to reach unless we had deep pockets and mega backing.

If it was athletics etc then you can see the point but not as an F1 driver.

London424

12,829 posts

175 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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Schermerhorn said:
The type of people Lewis Hamilton appeals to aren't really Mercedes drivers in my opinion.

His marketing reach is very limited in my opinion. He is in a sport that not many of us will be able to reach unless we had deep pockets and mega backing.

If it was athletics etc then you can see the point but not as an F1 driver.
He's one of the most marketable athletes in the world.

Schermerhorn

4,342 posts

189 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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London424 said:
Schermerhorn said:
The type of people Lewis Hamilton appeals to aren't really Mercedes drivers in my opinion.

His marketing reach is very limited in my opinion. He is in a sport that not many of us will be able to reach unless we had deep pockets and mega backing.

If it was athletics etc then you can see the point but not as an F1 driver.
He's one of the most marketable athletes in the world.
Marketing what though?

PS I do not disagree with you.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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Schermerhorn said:
London424 said:
Schermerhorn said:
The type of people Lewis Hamilton appeals to aren't really Mercedes drivers in my opinion.

His marketing reach is very limited in my opinion. He is in a sport that not many of us will be able to reach unless we had deep pockets and mega backing.

If it was athletics etc then you can see the point but not as an F1 driver.
He's one of the most marketable athletes in the world.
Marketing what though?

PS I do not disagree with you.
Mercedes for a start. biggrin

Mercedes target audience is everyone, long gone are the days where they were an exclusive brand for middle aged well to do folk, their range of vehicles covers every demographic.

belleair302

6,843 posts

207 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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Sadly very few Mercedes drivers actually know or watch F1. They are still buyers because of the history of the brand....the tag line of The Best or Nothing and the odd belief that the car, SUV, or whatever is better built or with more social pull than your BMW, Jag, Lexus, Audi etc.

Gone are the days of win on Sunday sell on Monday because F1 does not attract the fans as it did and the world of advertising has moved on. Ask most 20 somethings about a car and few have any knowledge of how they work or even the history of car brands. Ask those with money....usually those over 55, most don't watch F1 and want something different than what many manufacturers are selling via race sponsorship, participation and or engine development.

Zad

12,699 posts

236 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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I don't see millions of people watching athletics on the telly every other summer sunday. Whenever TV shows it, the stadia all look to be only half full.

If you look at baseball and American football players, £50 is cheap!


rubystone

11,254 posts

259 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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I think Mercedes are getting great value out of the sport. The AMG division is selling everything it can produce and the demographic is tuned to the AMG Mercedes F1 team. No coincidence the name of the team starts with AMG.

And for those who can't stretch to financing a genuine AMG, they can still aspire to that brand through their purchase of AMG wheels, trim and bodywork. I rarely see a Merc without something 'AMG' bolted onto it.

I'd say that Lewis, rather than Nico is the better foil for the larger then life, noisy brash, slightly flash image that AMG brings (oh and btw I have owned several AMG machines and love them!)

PapaJohns

1,064 posts

153 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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I'm sure I read somewhere maybe the F1 mag that Alonso had offered to drive for Merc for £13million,and if Lewis gets to greedy that could be an option, they also suggested that alonso might have a get out clause with mclaren if the honda unit doesn't deliver


Wtf is with that hair. Did he hire princes stylist