Woodstove, I want BIG, installer says I'll melt, thoughts?

Woodstove, I want BIG, installer says I'll melt, thoughts?

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wolfracesonic

6,975 posts

127 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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cheddar

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4,637 posts

174 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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Craikeybaby said:
Has the OP melted yet?
Heat shield for curtains taking longer than expected to fabricate due to, erm, potentially high temps.

Picked up the woodstove today, supplier said I must have a big house as he rarely sells this model, took four rotund men to get it on my truck:



HotJambalaya

2,025 posts

180 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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very much looking forward to the installation and running of this badboy!

-how do you get it off the truck?

cheddar

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4,637 posts

174 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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HotJambalaya said:
how do you get it off the truck?
I've been asking myself the same question.

I managed to get the hearth off:



Simpo Two

85,355 posts

265 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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cheddar said:
HotJambalaya said:
how do you get it off the truck?
I've been asking myself the same question.
A-frame?

Or maybe cut the truck away from underneath hehe

cheddar

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4,637 posts

174 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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Installation confirmed for Tuesday, many men coming to carry it in.

Final run for the old girl:


dickymint

24,267 posts

258 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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ShiningWit said:
They aren't that great as you will get a totally different temp dependent on surface colour/texture - I know I have one! If you have say a shiny SS flue with black spots on it shifting the red dot from one to the other sees a marked difference.
Umm that's because it is a different temperature confused

ShiningWit

10,203 posts

128 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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cheddar said:
Installation confirmed for Tuesday, many men coming to carry it in.

Final run for the old girl:

Jesus that's hideous, no fond farewell there!

R1 Indy

4,382 posts

183 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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How low is your garage roof? That looks very close!!

ShiningWit

10,203 posts

128 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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dickymint said:
ShiningWit said:
They aren't that great as you will get a totally different temp dependent on surface colour/texture - I know I have one! If you have say a shiny SS flue with black spots on it shifting the red dot from one to the other sees a marked difference.
Umm that's because it is a different temperature confused
Fair comment, but how does that work then?
Lets make a test; My living room table, ambient 20'c. Two items sat on there for four hours now; piece of matt black paper, sheet of shiny Stainless steel. Put the IR dot on them and they will read different temps, they both should be 20'c but aren't, why?

herewego

8,814 posts

213 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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ShiningWit said:
dickymint said:
ShiningWit said:
They aren't that great as you will get a totally different temp dependent on surface colour/texture - I know I have one! If you have say a shiny SS flue with black spots on it shifting the red dot from one to the other sees a marked difference.
Umm that's because it is a different temperature confused
Fair comment, but how does that work then?
Lets make a test; My living room table, ambient 20'c. Two items sat on there for four hours now; piece of matt black paper, sheet of shiny Stainless steel. Put the IR dot on them and they will read different temps, they both should be 20'c but aren't, why?
We all did the black/shiny experiment in school I expect.
http://www.grainger.com/content/qt-370-infrared-th...
According to this there is an emissivity adjustment on the device. The device should be used on objects for which you know the correct emissivity setting. You can determine this with a contact temperature device. You can't just switch between low and high emissivity surfaces.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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I can't wait to see the photos etc. of this in situ and in use

You are going to get through a fair bit of wood when that is going at full tilt

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 2nd March 2015
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JPJPJP said:
I can't wait to see the photos etc. of this in situ and in use

singlecoil

33,541 posts

246 months

Monday 2nd March 2015
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You don't have to run the bloody things flat out FFS!

RobinOakapple

2,802 posts

112 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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creationracing said:
But you do have to run them at a level that keeps the stove and flue in an optimal temperature range for good performance, no?

For a 26kW stove this is going to involve more effort (and produce more heat) than a 3kW stove.

Very interested to read about how much legwork is involved with keeping it at the minimal good burning temperature.
Not found that myself (I have a good quality 16Kw woodburner). I can get it to run well at quite low outputs.

RedLeicester

6,869 posts

245 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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creationracing said:
But you do have to run them at a level that keeps the stove and flue in an optimal temperature range for good performance, no?

For a 26kW stove this is going to involve more effort (and produce more heat) than a 3kW stove.

Very interested to read about how much legwork is involved with keeping it at the minimal good burning temperature.
Exactamundo.

RobinOakapple

2,802 posts

112 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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RedLeicester said:
creationracing said:
But you do have to run them at a level that keeps the stove and flue in an optimal temperature range for good performance, no?

For a 26kW stove this is going to involve more effort (and produce more heat) than a 3kW stove.

Very interested to read about how much legwork is involved with keeping it at the minimal good burning temperature.
Exactamundo.
Not found that myself (I have a good quality 16Kw woodburner). I can get it to run well at quite low outputs.

Simpo Two

85,355 posts

265 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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creationracing said:
But you do have to run them at a level that keeps the stove and flue in an optimal temperature range for good performance, no?

For a 26kW stove this is going to involve more effort (and produce more heat) than a 3kW stove.

Very interested to read about how much legwork is involved with keeping it at the minimal good burning temperature.
That's an interesting concept. If we say that a good operating temperature is 200C, then a big stove at 200C is producing more heat than a small stove at 200C... yet both are the same temperature....

idea

I suppose it's because the surface area is bigger smile



Rosscow

8,755 posts

163 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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Symbolica said:
JPJPJP said:
I can't wait to see the photos etc. of this in situ and in use
hehe

RobinOakapple

2,802 posts

112 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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This is like saying that a car that do 170 is no good for driving in this country.