Woodstove, I want BIG, installer says I'll melt, thoughts?
Discussion
Simpo Two said:
creationracing said:
But you do have to run them at a level that keeps the stove and flue in an optimal temperature range for good performance, no?
For a 26kW stove this is going to involve more effort (and produce more heat) than a 3kW stove.
Very interested to read about how much legwork is involved with keeping it at the minimal good burning temperature.
That's an interesting concept. If we say that a good operating temperature is 200C, then a big stove at 200C is producing more heat than a small stove at 200C... yet both are the same temperature....For a 26kW stove this is going to involve more effort (and produce more heat) than a 3kW stove.
Very interested to read about how much legwork is involved with keeping it at the minimal good burning temperature.
I suppose it's because the surface area is bigger
Simpo Two said:
creationracing said:
But you do have to run them at a level that keeps the stove and flue in an optimal temperature range for good performance, no?
For a 26kW stove this is going to involve more effort (and produce more heat) than a 3kW stove.
Very interested to read about how much legwork is involved with keeping it at the minimal good burning temperature.
That's an interesting concept. If we say that a good operating temperature is 200C, then a big stove at 200C is producing more heat than a small stove at 200C... yet both are the same temperature....For a 26kW stove this is going to involve more effort (and produce more heat) than a 3kW stove.
Very interested to read about how much legwork is involved with keeping it at the minimal good burning temperature.
I suppose it's because the surface area is bigger
RobinOakapple said:
This is like saying that a car that do 170 is no good for driving in this country.
Its not.Its like saying:
"why have you bought an Olympic track cycle with 1 huge fixed gear, to go to the shops ?"
it will work, but its not the easiest or most efficient method of getting bread.....
Chimune said:
RobinOakapple said:
This is like saying that a car that do 170 is no good for driving in this country.
Its not.Its like saying:
"why have you bought an Olympic track cycle with 1 huge fixed gear, to go to the shops ?"
it will work, but its not the easiest or most efficient method of getting bread.....
RobinOakapple said:
Chimune said:
RobinOakapple said:
This is like saying that a car that do 170 is no good for driving in this country.
Its not.Its like saying:
"why have you bought an Olympic track cycle with 1 huge fixed gear, to go to the shops ?"
it will work, but its not the easiest or most efficient method of getting bread.....
Chimune said:
RobinOakapple said:
Chimune said:
RobinOakapple said:
This is like saying that a car that do 170 is no good for driving in this country.
Its not.Its like saying:
"why have you bought an Olympic track cycle with 1 huge fixed gear, to go to the shops ?"
it will work, but its not the easiest or most efficient method of getting bread.....
All the wood is converted to ash (burnt efficiently) and no clogging of the chimney.
This was handy when I bought our stove:
Had to get it on the pickup with an engine hoist and a lot of swearing.
The telehandler was handy for putting it into the house too:
That's a 9kW stove with back boiler - 4kW to room, 5kW to water - and at full chat, we have to wear t-shirts and open the windows.
Had to get it on the pickup with an engine hoist and a lot of swearing.
The telehandler was handy for putting it into the house too:
That's a 9kW stove with back boiler - 4kW to room, 5kW to water - and at full chat, we have to wear t-shirts and open the windows.
26kw is OTT, however................
I was advised to install a 4kw by a salesman who worked it out by room size and a booklet, so I ignored him!! and bought an 8kw from a local farm store.
When an independent installer arrive to fit it, he said I did the right thing, and I'm glad I went for an 8kw, don't forget, you can have it as hot as you like depending on how much you throw in it, mine heats the whole house providing I open all the doors. Best thing I put in the house, still restoring the house.
I was advised to install a 4kw by a salesman who worked it out by room size and a booklet, so I ignored him!! and bought an 8kw from a local farm store.
When an independent installer arrive to fit it, he said I did the right thing, and I'm glad I went for an 8kw, don't forget, you can have it as hot as you like depending on how much you throw in it, mine heats the whole house providing I open all the doors. Best thing I put in the house, still restoring the house.
Edited by Bebee on Tuesday 3rd March 21:49
Edited by Bebee on Tuesday 3rd March 21:50
creationracing said:
But you do have to run them at a level that keeps the stove and flue in an optimal temperature range for good performance, no?
I'm not sure what you mean by good performance? The newer burners have slightly less ash because they more efficient but the OP isn't buying much more than a fire box. Our homemade woodburner will happily run with one log or glow red with three dustbin fulls of woodchips.
Interestingly, following the OP's link, his stove only requires a 150mm flue, the same as a burner a third of the size, so he should get a decent draw with smaller burns. He'd have to go out of his way to fur up the flue.
singlecoil said:
So, how well does it run at lower outputs?
OK. The door tars up very quickly and you find yourself cycling between burning well, going out and recovering if you don't have enough fuel in there. Certainly having a single log in there needs a lot more attendance and fiddling than just letting it do its stuff. It has an automatic thermostat which helps, but certainly runs better at 60+% full power than 30%.I'm pretty happy with how well sized it is for the room and house - we probably went through two tonnes of wood this winter and really enjoyed having a warm, comfortable home.
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