Emma first Accident

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vinnie01

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863 posts

119 months

Friday 20th February 2015
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Hi all just after some advice and to what happens now and liability, i guess I'm getting screwed for it. Emma crashed the focus this morning when a bin lorry stopped without warning on wet road the cars inferno of emma only just avoided it and emma bumped the back of them focus is a write of as its only worth 500quid. as its mu car and on my insurance does that mean it will be me that forks out and is it unfortunately emmas fault? the good news is no-one was hurt but the bin lorry was oblivious to the shunt and departed as quick as a bin truck can go?

covboy

2,575 posts

174 months

Friday 20th February 2015
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vinnie01 said:
Hi all just after some advice and to what happens now and liability, i guess I'm getting screwed for it. Emma crashed the focus this morning when a bin lorry stopped without warning on wet road the cars inferno of emma only just avoided it and emma bumped the back of them focus is a write of as its only worth 500quid. as its mu car and on my insurance does that mean it will be me that forks out and is it unfortunately emmas fault? the good news is no-one was hurt but the bin lorry was oblivious to the shunt and departed as quick as a bin truck can go?
Try again without predictive text - Or at least read wot you rote !

Pebbles167

3,435 posts

152 months

Friday 20th February 2015
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Its 100% Emma's fault.

Is Emma insured? If so, is she a named driver on your policy, or are you both comprehensively covered by individual policies?

If the answer is yes, then you're ok. If not, you might have to dig into your pocket.

vinnie01

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863 posts

119 months

Friday 20th February 2015
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Dyslexic sorry smile basically bin lorry stops on wet road suddenly. 4 cars E-Stop to avoid it. Emma not quick enough = crunch into back of cars in front. all drivers seem ok at scene, Emma in MY car MY insurance. will i be forking out for everyone? thats the gist

vinnie01

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863 posts

119 months

Friday 20th February 2015
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Pebbles167 said:
Is Emma insured? If so, is she a named driver on your policy, or are you both comprehensively covered by individual policies?

If the answer is yes, then you're ok. If not, you might have to dig into your pocket.
Arse so its looking like her fault and Muggins here has to fork out :'(

Du1point8

21,606 posts

192 months

Friday 20th February 2015
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Just how close was the driver to the bin lorry not their braking lights?

Stopped suddenly won't be a good enough excuse as the driver was a) too close b) thats what they do on their rounds, c) they aint exactly moving fast when they are driving round.

Not what you want to hear but if a truck was rear ended then its the fault of only one person.

vinnie01

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863 posts

119 months

Friday 20th February 2015
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the truck braked suddenly setting of a cascade of E -stops in front of emma and she wasn't quick enough. Oh well i guess ill have to ban her

Pebbles167

3,435 posts

152 months

Friday 20th February 2015
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vinnie01 said:
Arse so its looking like her fault and Muggins here has to fork out :'(
If Emma was insured, even third party, the other drivers will be compensated.

But if it was only third party, then you won't be and will have to pay for the car.

Read the lettering of your insurance policy.

mrtwisty

3,057 posts

165 months

Friday 20th February 2015
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vinnie01 said:
MY car MY insurance
...but she has her own insurance on another car, or is named on your policy right?

vinnie01

Original Poster:

863 posts

119 months

Friday 20th February 2015
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she's a named driver on my policy sadly we own one car between us (skint students) beans and pasta it is for a while. I've no intention of claiming the yound driver excess for under 25 makes the excess equal to the car insured value. will i still have to pay that if others claim on me with her being a young driver?

Boydie88

3,283 posts

149 months

Friday 20th February 2015
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vinnie01 said:
the truck braked suddenly setting of a cascade of E -stops in front of emma and she wasn't quick enough. Oh well i guess ill have to ban her
It's a bin lorry. Yes he should have put on an indicator, but he is well within his right to emergency stop if someone ran out in front of him etc. Being a bin lorry, drivers should be expecting him to stop. It's also a big massive heavy bin lorry, just how quickly can it stop compared to all these numpties behind him?!

You're insured so you don't have to fork out, just the excess when it comes to getting the pay out on the Focus you agreed to with the policy.

Pebbles167

3,435 posts

152 months

Friday 20th February 2015
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vinnie01 said:
she's a named driver on my policy sadly we own one car between us (skint students) beans and pasta it is for a while. I've no intention of claiming the yound driver excess for under 25 makes the excess equal to the car insured value. will i still have to pay that if others claim on me with her being a young driver?
If you are both comprehensively insured, you could claim, but as you've pointed out, the excesses and record of a claim might make it rather pointless to do so.

Sorry bud.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Friday 20th February 2015
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vinnie01 said:
she's a named driver on my policy sadly we own one car between us (skint students) beans and pasta it is for a while. I've no intention of claiming the yound driver excess for under 25 makes the excess equal to the car insured value. will i still have to pay that if others claim on me with her being a young driver?
You're going to be paying the excess, and losing your NCB, anyway - because, yes, any damage to those she hit (and those they hit) is coming off your policy. So you might as well add your car to the list, it's not going to cost you any extra.

vinnie01

Original Poster:

863 posts

119 months

Friday 20th February 2015
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ugh thanks guys at least the premium isn't affected till renewal day :/ might not bother with a car for a while, it gets too expensive

ARH

1,222 posts

239 months

Friday 20th February 2015
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there is only one reason a driver runs into the back of another car, it was too close. end of story. drivers fault.

vinnie01

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863 posts

119 months

Friday 20th February 2015
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ARH said:
there is only one reason a driver runs into the back of another car, it was too close. end of story. drivers fault.
thanks =/ i had better brace for impact...

surveyor

17,811 posts

184 months

Friday 20th February 2015
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ARH said:
there is only one reason a driver runs into the back of another car, it was too close. end of story. drivers fault.
That't not quite true. I can think of more.

For instance.

Driver not paying attention
Vehicle becoming defective.

Aretnap

1,650 posts

151 months

Friday 20th February 2015
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TooMany2cvs said:
vinnie01 said:
she's a named driver on my policy sadly we own one car between us (skint students) beans and pasta it is for a while. I've no intention of claiming the yound driver excess for under 25 makes the excess equal to the car insured value. will i still have to pay that if others claim on me with her being a young driver?
You're going to be paying the excess, and losing your NCB, anyway - because, yes, any damage to those she hit (and those they hit) is coming off your policy. So you might as well add your car to the list, it's not going to cost you any extra.
The excess is generally only payable on own damage claims - not the third party element. So if you don't claim for the damage to your own car there's no excess to pay.

vinnie01

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863 posts

119 months

Friday 20th February 2015
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i love her optimism the only real damage is a scratch on the car in from it the focus that took the brunt of it. She's not dealt with situations like this before. ill bet i get a tonne of whiplash/can't work/im paralysed claims .....

SteveSteveson

3,209 posts

163 months

Friday 20th February 2015
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vinnie01 said:
i love her optimism the only real damage is a scratch on the car in from it the focus that took the brunt of it. She's not dealt with situations like this before. ill bet i get a tonne of whiplash/can't work/im paralysed claims .....
Not your problem. Someone may try that, but thats the insurance companies issue (Other than the rather nebulous thing of increasing everyones insurance policies, which is a valid thing to get angry about, but not a reason to personally worry).

Let the insurance co deal with it. It's already going to them, it sounds like you don't NEED the car and could live without it, so just let them get on with it.

All you will hear about whiplash will probably be some ambulance chaser calling you to "follow up on your recent injury".

You will have to pay your excess, but the the insurance co will probably give you something for the car, so you may have lost that, but should balance out some of your loss.

Sounds like everyone was a bit to close, but people make dumb mistakes, especially when they are newish drivers. Just be thankful no one was hurt.

Edited by SteveSteveson on Friday 20th February 09:53