Marriage tax allowce

Marriage tax allowce

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7,455 posts

212 months

Friday 20th February 2015
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https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/marriage-tax-all...

Seems very much like another rabbit out the hat in time for election day ,but it's always seemed a fairer way of running the tax system in keeping with the "professed" family values . I read it as one partner in a marriage being able to use part of their unused tax allowances to assist in family finances. So say,wife wishes to be an old fashioned stay & run her home wife, she could use part of her allowance to reduce their joint tax bill ?

RicksAlfas

13,387 posts

244 months

Friday 20th February 2015
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From https://www.gov.uk/marriage-allowance

You’ll be able to claim Marriage Allowance if all the following apply:

you’re married or in a civil partnership
you have an annual income of less than £10,600 - including pensions, savings and investments
your spouse or civil partner has an annual income of between £10,601 and £42,385
you were both born on or after 6 April 1935


R8VXF

6,788 posts

115 months

Friday 20th February 2015
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Pretty fking st when you actually look at the figures quoted. Would discount me and Mrs R8 anyway, being higher rate earners.

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

157 months

Friday 20th February 2015
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So more tax for the rest of us or more borrowing to pay for it ....

Simpo Two

85,349 posts

265 months

Friday 20th February 2015
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PurpleMoonlight said:
So more tax for the rest of us or more borrowing to pay for it ....
I'm sure the other lot will promise more.

Mr Whippy

29,024 posts

241 months

Saturday 21st February 2015
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Sounds good to me. I see a net gain for society if kids have parents at home rather than working. It also frees up career type jobs for other people to do, rather than generating child minder jobs.

Now if the outcome is good for the cost is another thing. Imo I think any married couple with kids between 0-18 should have a combined allowances for taxation.


Hmmmm.

R8VXF

6,788 posts

115 months

Saturday 21st February 2015
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Mr Whippy said:
Sounds good to me. I see a net gain for society if kids have parents at home rather than working. It also frees up career type jobs for other people to do, rather than generating child minder jobs.

Now if the outcome is good for the cost is another thing. Imo I think any married couple with kids between 0-18 should have a combined allowances for taxation.


Hmmmm.
For £212 per year max? I vote tory, but this is a joke.

bad company

18,537 posts

266 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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PurpleMoonlight said:
So more tax for the rest of us or more borrowing to pay for it ....
yes

Awful policy IMO.

Gargamel

14,974 posts

261 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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PurpleMoonlight said:
So more tax for the rest of us or more borrowing to pay for it ....
This is just such a narrow view of the world.

There are around 31million jobs in the economy right now, and about 1.8million unemployed. If some Married Couples elect to manage on one salary between them, then those roles they leave will be replaced by other taxpaying folk.

It is a relatively short period of time and many studies have proven it has hugely beneficial outcomes for the children


oyster

12,589 posts

248 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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R8VXF said:
Mr Whippy said:
Sounds good to me. I see a net gain for society if kids have parents at home rather than working. It also frees up career type jobs for other people to do, rather than generating child minder jobs.

Now if the outcome is good for the cost is another thing. Imo I think any married couple with kids between 0-18 should have a combined allowances for taxation.


Hmmmm.
For £212 per year max? I vote tory, but this is a joke.
If you earn just over the higher rate tax threshold though, it would be worrthwhile upping pension contributions to get this £212 back. Quite a decent tax offset for people close to the threshold.

Mr Whippy

29,024 posts

241 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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R8VXF said:
or £212 per year max? I vote tory, but this is a joke.
Not sure on the details as I couldn't seem to see any specifics.

But as noted in my post, imo it should just be shared for married couples with kids imo.
Ie 20k free, then 25% till 80k quid or whatever it works out at.

R8VXF

6,788 posts

115 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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Mr Whippy said:
R8VXF said:
or £212 per year max? I vote tory, but this is a joke.
Not sure on the details as I couldn't seem to see any specifics.

But as noted in my post, imo it should just be shared for married couples with kids imo.
Ie 20k free, then 25% till 80k quid or whatever it works out at.
See the original article
Yahoo Finance Article said:
For example, if one person earns £5,000 and their partner earns £20,000, the lower earner can transfer £1,060 of their unused allowance to the higher earner. The higher earner can take home an additional £1,060 tax-free, so thanks to 20pc relief they will pay £212 less tax over the year.

PositronicRay

27,004 posts

183 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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Just registered interest. wink

Mr Whippy

29,024 posts

241 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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R8VXF said:
Mr Whippy said:
R8VXF said:
or £212 per year max? I vote tory, but this is a joke.
Not sure on the details as I couldn't seem to see any specifics.

But as noted in my post, imo it should just be shared for married couples with kids imo.
Ie 20k free, then 25% till 80k quid or whatever it works out at.
See the original article
Yahoo Finance Article said:
For example, if one person earns £5,000 and their partner earns £20,000, the lower earner can transfer £1,060 of their unused allowance to the higher earner. The higher earner can take home an additional £1,060 tax-free, so thanks to 20pc relief they will pay £212 less tax over the year.
£1060 max transfer?

It'll probably cost more in admin to make this a reality than it helps those using it.


I don't really see the point at that level. Do it fully or not at all imo.

Claudia Skies

1,098 posts

116 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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Mr Whippy said:
I don't really see the point at that level. Do it fully or not at all imo.
I tend to agree. About as clear an example of pre-election window dressing as you will ever encounter.

IainT

10,040 posts

238 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
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Seems to me it'd be of more benefit if we were allowed to share the tax burden fully including the basic rate of tax not just the un-taxed portion.

Countdown

39,817 posts

196 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
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Gargamel said:
PurpleMoonlight said:
So more tax for the rest of us or more borrowing to pay for it ....
This is just such a narrow view of the world.

There are around 31million jobs in the economy right now, and about 1.8million unemployed. If some Married Couples elect to manage on one salary between them, then those roles they leave will be replaced by other taxpaying folk.

It is a relatively short period of time and many studies have proven it has hugely beneficial outcomes for the children
I agree - So why cap it at £42k?

Mr Whippy

29,024 posts

241 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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Countdown said:
Gargamel said:
PurpleMoonlight said:
So more tax for the rest of us or more borrowing to pay for it ....
This is just such a narrow view of the world.

There are around 31million jobs in the economy right now, and about 1.8million unemployed. If some Married Couples elect to manage on one salary between them, then those roles they leave will be replaced by other taxpaying folk.

It is a relatively short period of time and many studies have proven it has hugely beneficial outcomes for the children
I agree - So why cap it at £42k?
Because as said above it's just window dressing vote winning garbage that will likely cost more to administrate than the meagre benefit it may return.

Ie, jobs for HMRC drones... likely needing a 'director' to undertake the policy, with a big fancy pension and benefits package, and then a load of minions all earning cushy incomes for doing sod all all day.


I agree, share it fully between married couples with children under say 12yo, or don't bother.