Importing LHD Speciale
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With the Pound/Euro as it is feel LHD Speciale's are becoming hard to ignore..
Unfortunately I'm a simpleton and was wondering how hard can the process be??
What is stopping one from turning up at foreign dealer with a fist full of Euros, driving home in car and then sorting out
correct testing for UK roads when back??
Unfortunately I'm a simpleton and was wondering how hard can the process be??
What is stopping one from turning up at foreign dealer with a fist full of Euros, driving home in car and then sorting out
correct testing for UK roads when back??
Be very careful.
If the car is 'EU Taxes Paid' and you bring it back to the UK to register it the car MUST be both 6 months old 'AND' 6,000kms or you will be liable to pay VAT when you NOVA the car.
If you can buy a car over 6 months old and 6,000kms for circa €220k you are in good shape. Go pick it up and drive it back and get it registered.
If the car is 'EU Taxes Paid' and you bring it back to the UK to register it the car MUST be both 6 months old 'AND' 6,000kms or you will be liable to pay VAT when you NOVA the car.
If you can buy a car over 6 months old and 6,000kms for circa €220k you are in good shape. Go pick it up and drive it back and get it registered.
InsideDealings said:
Be very careful.
If the car is 'EU Taxes Paid' and you bring it back to the UK to register it the car MUST be both 6 months old 'AND' 6,000kms or you will be liable to pay VAT when you NOVA the car.
If you can buy a car over 6 months old and 6,000kms for circa €220k you are in good shape. Go pick it up and drive it back and get it registered.
Many thanks very useful infoIf the car is 'EU Taxes Paid' and you bring it back to the UK to register it the car MUST be both 6 months old 'AND' 6,000kms or you will be liable to pay VAT when you NOVA the car.
If you can buy a car over 6 months old and 6,000kms for circa €220k you are in good shape. Go pick it up and drive it back and get it registered.
From an earlier thread....
Slickhillsy said:
I had submitted this update to another thread earlier but as I was writing it thought it deserved it's own thread as it could benefit others and save some serious pain...
Not going to speak about values but what I can help with is what to do once your new toy hits UK shores. I've just completed the import of a 430 Scuderia from France so have lived the highs and low's first hand.
You can either :
A) Pull of the paper work together yourself (including paying £600 for the COC from Ferrari - I managed to swerve that one getting the dealer to request it for me), MOT the car and then complete the check list of items for the DVLA and send it with your fee's for first registration and road tax. Then, send off (registered of course / with prep paid register for the return) and wait... ... wait for the faceless paper pushers to not even bother to look further than the first page of you documents, think you haven't included what they've asked for (when clearly you have) and receive everything back in the post. Then once having gone through the reams of paper work highlighting the 10+ entries showing the first registration date that was there all along they will you can send to DVLA once again (same costs) and wait... ...wait for different faceless paper pusher to reject your 'first' application (errr no it wasn't) for completely different reasons!!!!
Or, go for option
B) http://mycarimport.co.uk/
Speak to Jack (lovely bloke). He'll take your car, flatten the beam on your headlights (don't listen to numerous posts on her of people saying can’t be done you have to buy new at a cost of £5K - it can be done) add MPH to your speedo, take the car through his onsite IVA test, MOT the car, create the number plates. All for the princely sum of Circa £1400 inc VAT. The cherry on the top is that because he has IVA'd (in this case my Scuderia) and the IVA isn't bound by Co2 regulations I now only have to pay £230 per year road tax - that's right a 430 Scuderia with £230 PA tax
Dealing with the DVLA was UNBELIEVABLY TEDIOUS - my advice, save yourself time and aggravation. Give Jack a call!
Not going to speak about values but what I can help with is what to do once your new toy hits UK shores. I've just completed the import of a 430 Scuderia from France so have lived the highs and low's first hand.
You can either :
A) Pull of the paper work together yourself (including paying £600 for the COC from Ferrari - I managed to swerve that one getting the dealer to request it for me), MOT the car and then complete the check list of items for the DVLA and send it with your fee's for first registration and road tax. Then, send off (registered of course / with prep paid register for the return) and wait... ... wait for the faceless paper pushers to not even bother to look further than the first page of you documents, think you haven't included what they've asked for (when clearly you have) and receive everything back in the post. Then once having gone through the reams of paper work highlighting the 10+ entries showing the first registration date that was there all along they will you can send to DVLA once again (same costs) and wait... ...wait for different faceless paper pusher to reject your 'first' application (errr no it wasn't) for completely different reasons!!!!
Or, go for option
B) http://mycarimport.co.uk/
Speak to Jack (lovely bloke). He'll take your car, flatten the beam on your headlights (don't listen to numerous posts on her of people saying can’t be done you have to buy new at a cost of £5K - it can be done) add MPH to your speedo, take the car through his onsite IVA test, MOT the car, create the number plates. All for the princely sum of Circa £1400 inc VAT. The cherry on the top is that because he has IVA'd (in this case my Scuderia) and the IVA isn't bound by Co2 regulations I now only have to pay £230 per year road tax - that's right a 430 Scuderia with £230 PA tax
Dealing with the DVLA was UNBELIEVABLY TEDIOUS - my advice, save yourself time and aggravation. Give Jack a call!
InsideDealings said:
Be very careful.
If the car is 'EU Taxes Paid' and you bring it back to the UK to register it the car MUST be both 6 months old 'AND' 6,000kms or you will be liable to pay VAT when you NOVA the car.
If you can buy a car over 6 months old and 6,000kms for circa €220k you are in good shape. Go pick it up and drive it back and get it registered.
Just looked at the DVLA website, which contradicts what you say (I'm easily confused though so apologies if I'm wrong) but that gives me the following impression If the car is 'EU Taxes Paid' and you bring it back to the UK to register it the car MUST be both 6 months old 'AND' 6,000kms or you will be liable to pay VAT when you NOVA the car.
If you can buy a car over 6 months old and 6,000kms for circa €220k you are in good shape. Go pick it up and drive it back and get it registered.
1. ANY car over 6 months old regardless of mileage has no VAT
2. ANY car over 6,000km's regardless of age has no VAT
"Second-hand vehicles
You don’t usually have to pay VAT if you’re importing a second-hand vehicle and the VAT was paid in another EU country.
You’ll have to pay VAT if your vehicle is classed as a ‘new means of transport’ - ie it’s less than 6 months old and has done less than 6,000km (about 3,728 miles). HMRC will tell you if this is the case."
Is it possible to pop along to a Germany dealership, buy a car, get transfer players, insurance it and then
simply drive it home to the UK, park it up in your garage and then sort out the paper work, IVA etc
The UK gov site is a little ambiguous .....suggesting you have 14 days....
Is it legal to do the journey from the dealership back home (particularly the UK leg).
simply drive it home to the UK, park it up in your garage and then sort out the paper work, IVA etc
The UK gov site is a little ambiguous .....suggesting you have 14 days....
Is it legal to do the journey from the dealership back home (particularly the UK leg).
Wilmslowboy said:
Is it possible to pop along to a Germany dealership, buy a car, get transfer players, insurance it and then
simply drive it home to the UK, park it up in your garage and then sort out the paper work, IVA etc
The UK gov site is a little ambiguous .....suggesting you have 14 days....
Is it legal to do the journey from the dealership back home (particularly the UK leg).
Simple answer - yes! The 14 days relates to NOVA (https://www.gov.uk/nova-log-in)simply drive it home to the UK, park it up in your garage and then sort out the paper work, IVA etc
The UK gov site is a little ambiguous .....suggesting you have 14 days....
Is it legal to do the journey from the dealership back home (particularly the UK leg).
As for the purchase process... You can indeed 'pop over' to a friendly Euro dealer and purchase, you'll just need to ensure its insured (Adrian Flux)on the chassis number for the drive home. Declare it via NOVA and then I would not bother with DVLA and use an import service to take all of the grief out of the equation...
sonicbloo said:
Just looked at the DVLA website, which contradicts what you say (I'm easily confused though so apologies if I'm wrong) but that gives me the following impression
1. ANY car over 6 months old regardless of mileage has no VAT
2. ANY car over 6,000km's regardless of age has no VAT
"Second-hand vehicles
You don’t usually have to pay VAT if you’re importing a second-hand vehicle and the VAT was paid in another EU country.
You’ll have to pay VAT if your vehicle is classed as a ‘new means of transport’ - ie it’s less than 6 months old and has done less than 6,000km (about 3,728 miles). HMRC will tell you if this is the case."
Are points 1 and 2 cut and pasted from their page as I believe they have to be both 6 months old AND 6,000kms to be imported without VAT. 1. ANY car over 6 months old regardless of mileage has no VAT
2. ANY car over 6,000km's regardless of age has no VAT
"Second-hand vehicles
You don’t usually have to pay VAT if you’re importing a second-hand vehicle and the VAT was paid in another EU country.
You’ll have to pay VAT if your vehicle is classed as a ‘new means of transport’ - ie it’s less than 6 months old and has done less than 6,000km (about 3,728 miles). HMRC will tell you if this is the case."
sonicbloo said:
Just looked at the DVLA website, which contradicts what you say (I'm easily confused though so apologies if I'm wrong) but that gives me the following impression
1. ANY car over 6 months old regardless of mileage has no VAT
2. ANY car over 6,000km's regardless of age has no VAT
"Second-hand vehicles
You don’t usually have to pay VAT if you’re importing a second-hand vehicle and the VAT was paid in another EU country.
You’ll have to pay VAT if your vehicle is classed as a ‘new means of transport’ - ie it’s less than 6 months old and has done less than 6,000km (about 3,728 miles). HMRC will tell you if this is the case."
I read the comments too quickly, the cut and pasted DVLA item at the bottom of your message confirms what I am say Both the Age and Mileage need to be met for VAT not to be charged. Call them if you like but any dealer in the UK doing this day to day will tell you that VAT is payable!!1. ANY car over 6 months old regardless of mileage has no VAT
2. ANY car over 6,000km's regardless of age has no VAT
"Second-hand vehicles
You don’t usually have to pay VAT if you’re importing a second-hand vehicle and the VAT was paid in another EU country.
You’ll have to pay VAT if your vehicle is classed as a ‘new means of transport’ - ie it’s less than 6 months old and has done less than 6,000km (about 3,728 miles). HMRC will tell you if this is the case."
Wilmslowboy said:
Is it possible to pop along to a Germany dealership, buy a car, get transfer players, insurance it and then
simply drive it home to the UK, park it up in your garage and then sort out the paper work, IVA etc
The UK gov site is a little ambiguous .....suggesting you have 14 days....
Is it legal to do the journey from the dealership back home (particularly the UK leg).
Yes, it really is that simple, did it in a day with my 550 last year simply drive it home to the UK, park it up in your garage and then sort out the paper work, IVA etc
The UK gov site is a little ambiguous .....suggesting you have 14 days....
Is it legal to do the journey from the dealership back home (particularly the UK leg).
Phib
Interesting bit about sending in the paperwork and having it rejected.
I imported two cars circa 1998 and I went to the dvla in Birmingham where a bored lady didn't even look at the meticulously prepared documents with proofs including petrol receipts and foreign insureance to prove I owned the car abroad and just stamped everything.
Can you not do that any more?
I imported two cars circa 1998 and I went to the dvla in Birmingham where a bored lady didn't even look at the meticulously prepared documents with proofs including petrol receipts and foreign insureance to prove I owned the car abroad and just stamped everything.
Can you not do that any more?
I have bought new cars from the EU in the past. In 2001 I ordered a new RHD UK spec Esprit V8 GT from a Belgium dealer. In Belgium then if it was new and for export you did not pay the Belgium taxes. You only paid UK taxes and VAT to get it registered. The savings then were massive. The car only cost 30K once I paid the taxes. It was around 45K I think for a UK supplied car then.
A few years later I bought a new RHD Audi in Germany. Then you had to pay German taxes but claimed them back once the car left Germany. Again you could not register it until you showed the UK taxes had been paid.
A few years later I bought a new RHD Audi in Germany. Then you had to pay German taxes but claimed them back once the car left Germany. Again you could not register it until you showed the UK taxes had been paid.
Pesty said:
Interesting bit about sending in the paperwork and having it rejected.
I imported two cars circa 1998 and I went to the dvla in Birmingham where a bored lady didn't even look at the meticulously prepared documents with proofs including petrol receipts and foreign insureance to prove I owned the car abroad and just stamped everything.
Can you not do that any more?
Nope! in their infinite wisdom DVLA - CLOSED - every single one of their regional offices and went 100% online / postal submission...I imported two cars circa 1998 and I went to the dvla in Birmingham where a bored lady didn't even look at the meticulously prepared documents with proofs including petrol receipts and foreign insureance to prove I owned the car abroad and just stamped everything.
Can you not do that any more?
Cool eh!
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