Mitsubishi Evo 8/9/X

Mitsubishi Evo 8/9/X

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WCZ

10,492 posts

193 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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if you can stretch to a 9 360 then stretch smile amazing cars

youngsyr

14,742 posts

191 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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WCZ said:
if you can stretch to a 9 360 then stretch smile amazing cars
You can turn an IX FQ-300, 320 or 340 into a IX FQ-360 for very little money (£1,500 or so) and this is exactly what Mitsubishi UK did - all the IX FQ models were identical spec. when they left the factory in Japan, it was only when they arrived in the UK that Mitsubishi UK bolted some parts on and rebadged them. So, I don't rate the IX FQ-360 over the other models particularly.

The IX MR FQ-360 has some parts on it that the non MR IX FQ models do not, but again, nothing especially deal breaking, except that it's the only model available in gunmetal grey, which is a great colour on that shape Evo.

WCZ

10,492 posts

193 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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youngsyr said:
You can turn an IX FQ-300, 320 or 340 into a IX FQ-360 for very little money (£1,500 or so) and this is exactly what Mitsubishi UK did - all the IX FQ models were identical spec. when they left the factory in Japan, it was only when they arrived in the UK that Mitsubishi UK bolted some parts on and rebadged them. So, I don't rate the IX FQ-360 over the other models particularly.

The IX MR FQ-360 has some parts on it that the non MR IX FQ models do not, but again, nothing especially deal breaking, except that it's the only model available in gunmetal grey, which is a great colour on that shape Evo.
entirely agreed, but I think from depreciation point of view they are a classic and are the most sort after

youngsyr

14,742 posts

191 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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WCZ said:
youngsyr said:
You can turn an IX FQ-300, 320 or 340 into a IX FQ-360 for very little money (£1,500 or so) and this is exactly what Mitsubishi UK did - all the IX FQ models were identical spec. when they left the factory in Japan, it was only when they arrived in the UK that Mitsubishi UK bolted some parts on and rebadged them. So, I don't rate the IX FQ-360 over the other models particularly.

The IX MR FQ-360 has some parts on it that the non MR IX FQ models do not, but again, nothing especially deal breaking, except that it's the only model available in gunmetal grey, which is a great colour on that shape Evo.
entirely agreed, but I think from depreciation point of view they are a classic and are the most sort after
Agreed for the IX MR FQ-360, disagree for the IX FQ-360.

The MR version of the IX is the last of the CT9A chassis Evos, which is highly regarded by the community, and it was only sold officially in the UK in the FQ-360 spec., so if you want a UK model, your only choice is a IX MR FQ-360.

The IX FQ-360 is not particularly special (and had horrible wheels in its original spec.!).



Hol

8,360 posts

199 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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Rust wise, are the 7-9 cars starting to suffer like 4-6 cars have been for the last 5 years?

A friend was looking for a clean TME, but gave it up after two months as the only one for sale that wasn't beset by rust was a concours quality car for over £20k.


My track car is an AWD 4g63 engined hatchback, so I am genuinely curious - and its not a dig.

youngsyr

14,742 posts

191 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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Hol said:
Rust wise, are the 7-9 cars starting to suffer like 4-6 cars have been for the last 5 years?

A friend was looking for a clean TME, but gave it up after two months as the only one for sale that wasn't beset by rust was a concours quality car for over £20k.


My track car is an AWD 4g63 engined hatchback, so I am genuinely curious - and its not a dig.
I owned an VIII (UK supplied in 2003) from 2006 to 2012 and by this point it had the usual rust spot underneath the spoiler upright on the top of the boot where the spoiler rubbed, plus surface rust on the underside suspension parts, but nothing structural, as far as I was aware. That car is still going strong now and has had the engine upgraded to around 600 bhp, so I guess the current owner isn't concerned about it at the 12 year old mark. It must have done at least 70k miles by now.

Generally speaking, Evos do suffer from rust over time (don't forget Evo VIs are now at least 16 years old), with the Evo V/VIs suffering around the boot floor and petrol filler pipe. Evo VIIs onwards don't seem to be quite so bad, but then they are a few years younger than the VIs, so perhaps will suffer in time.


Steve Barrett

320 posts

137 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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I had my 9 on the ramp 5 weeks ago for a full steam clean and reunderseal, I was surprised just clean and rust free it was. I still decided to remove all the arch liners, steam clean, dry and reunderseal tho as I'd bought all the gear.

Steve

NailedOn

3,114 posts

234 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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I've had an X 300SST for nine months now.
It is a good all round car and for the last few weeks has been the only car in the household. SWMBO is happy to drive it and it is very steady in the rain and snow.
I have tracked it and it's a blast. It took me a while to figure out that when wearing a helmet you don't hear the tyres! It's handy to hear the tyres....
The S-AWC kit is amazing.

The pulley recall was Ok.

It is quiet when cruising returning 30 mpg at 70mph. Probably 25 mpg overall.
Awesome overtaking ability.
The only drawbacks are the small boot and cramped/dark rear.
Otherwise a super car!

Gandahar

9,600 posts

127 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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Heaveho said:
Funny how often this seems to happen........guy asks a question..........no-one responds for days.............you try and help the guy, immediately qualifying your response by making it clear in your first sentence that it isn't 1st hand experience, and that the only reason you're responding at all is because no-one else has. Your response is then immediately corrected or adjusted by someone else.

Seems odd how often there's a long gap between someone asking a question and getting an attempt at a helpful answer, and a very short gap after that before someone else who has direct knowledge then gets involved?

Not having a dig, and not even specific to me, just something I've noticed happens with reasonable frequency on a variety of forums. It's possible I've even done it myself!
At least you managed to get an alternative view smile Thanks to everyone who chipped in, I was tardy getting back to everyone to say thanks also.

I think I will continue to save. I have £6k at the moment and will have about £12 at end of the year. I'll top it up with one of those £7.5k supermarket loans and pay it off in a year. That should cover the car, insurance and running costs, I'll expect to do about 5-8k per year, my diesel Yaris will continue to do the grind to work as the Evo will be waisted doing the M25 / A2 into Canary Wharf.

The MX5 will not be turbo'd now and will continue to slowly toodle around top down, wife will be relieved biggrin


NailedOn

3,114 posts

234 months

Wednesday 11th March 2015
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Heaveho said:
Funny how often this seems to happen........guy asks a question..........no-one responds for days.............you try and help the guy, immediately qualifying your response by making it clear in your first sentence that it isn't 1st hand experience, and that the only reason you're responding at all is because no-one else has. Your response is then immediately corrected or adjusted by someone else.

Seems odd how often there's a long gap between someone asking a question and getting an attempt at a helpful answer, and a very short gap after that before someone else who has direct knowledge then gets involved?

Not having a dig, and not even specific to me, just something I've noticed happens with reasonable frequency on a variety of forums. It's possible I've even done it myself!
There are a few factors causing this.
> many PH-ers don't mind expressing an opinion based on 'Google Only Experince'
> The number of Evos out here is quite small vs M3s, Porkers and even TVRs
> Posts drop down the What's New list pretty fast so often need a bump

But I'm interested. I can only speak for myself.
Evos are fantastic cars and great value.

Gypsum Fantastic

412 posts

210 months

Wednesday 11th March 2015
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I had an Evo IX FQ-340.

Pros;
-Ridiculously fast in real terms, nothing for the money (and even for a lot more money) can touch them on a B-road. All weathers, all road conditions, it is just always fast.
-Astonishingly agile for a decent sized car, feels so light and nimble thanks to the AWD system. In a totally different league to STi's and high-powered hot hatches.
-Newer models are largely very reliable when taken care of.
-Easily and cheaply modified to go even faster, and a large amount of specialist garages and aftermarket parts for whatever you fancy.

Cons;
-The car is so stable and capable that you really need to push it for a thrill. And 'pushing it' in an Evo means you are going VERY fast. (I sold mine and got an RX8 which is a lot more fun in some ways, although going considerably slower.)
-Service intervals of 4500 miles are excruciating if you aren't local to a trusted mechanic.
-Fuel economy around town is not so bad, but as soon as the turbo gets going, goodbye bank balance!
-AYC pumps are a common problem, and can cost something like £600-£1000 to fix, but the car can run fine without it.
-People saying "Nice Subaru"

NailedOn

3,114 posts

234 months

Wednesday 11th March 2015
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Gypsum Fantastic said:
I had an Evo IX FQ-340.

Pros;
-Ridiculously fast in real terms, nothing for the money (and even for a lot more money) can touch them on a B-road. All weathers, all road conditions, it is just always fast.
-Astonishingly agile for a decent sized car, feels so light and nimble thanks to the AWD system. In a totally different league to STi's and high-powered hot hatches.
-Newer models are largely very reliable when taken care of.
-Easily and cheaply modified to go even faster, and a large amount of specialist garages and aftermarket parts for whatever you fancy.

Cons;
-The car is so stable and capable that you really need to push it for a thrill. And 'pushing it' in an Evo means you are going VERY fast. (I sold mine and got an RX8 which is a lot more fun in some ways, although going considerably slower.)
-Service intervals of 4500 miles are excruciating if you aren't local to a trusted mechanic.
-Fuel economy around town is not so bad, but as soon as the turbo gets going, goodbye bank balance!
-AYC pumps are a common problem, and can cost something like £600-£1000 to fix, but the car can run fine without it.
-People saying "Nice Subaru"
Yes to this but also to add that the X has a 10,000 service interval.
I rarely get below 23 mpg including energetic driving. Mind you in the track it is only 10-12!

Gypsum Fantastic

412 posts

210 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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NailedOn said:
Yes to this but also to add that the X has a 10,000 service interval.
I rarely get below 23 mpg including energetic driving. Mind you in the track it is only 10-12!
Yeah, I think the X is a different beast really. Probably a bit more reasonable to live with.

youngsyr

14,742 posts

191 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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Gypsum Fantastic said:
NailedOn said:
Yes to this but also to add that the X has a 10,000 service interval.
I rarely get below 23 mpg including energetic driving. Mind you in the track it is only 10-12!
Yeah, I think the X is a different beast really. Probably a bit more reasonable to live with.
They're a lot more reasonable to live with, for quite a few reasons:

- Variable Valve Control on both inlet and exhaust plus a smaller turbo with a titanium turbine makes the lag and boost threshold much less pronounced.
- Longer service period
- Interior was designed around 2006, not 1996 like the VII to IX.

However, there are some drawbacks:

- Manual X is only 5 speed, a lot of the VIII and IXs have a 6 speed
- Smaller boot on the X.
- Most VII to IXs have tax at a really low rate due to the way they were registered. All Xs are the highest tax band.

Heaveho

5,279 posts

173 months

Saturday 14th March 2015
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With regard to the AYC pump, it appears I've devised a free fix involving a hammer, and a gentle tap to the protective metal cage the pump sits in. It's worked on 2 occasions now, with a year long gap between hammer based interventions!

Titan

122 posts

247 months

Sunday 15th March 2015
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Not quite true on the X being the highest road tax band, our RS 360 is private light goods, currently £230 per year I think.

youngsyr

14,742 posts

191 months

Sunday 15th March 2015
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Titan said:
Not quite true on the X being the highest road tax band, our RS 360 is private light goods, currently £230 per year I think.
The tax band for grey imports will depend on how they were registered when they were imported.

For all the official UK models, the tax band is the highest one, just shy of £500 p.a.

NailedOn

3,114 posts

234 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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http://www4.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

I love my X but might not stretch to £65,000 for one!