Alonso airlifted to hospital

Alonso airlifted to hospital

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Mr_Thyroid

1,995 posts

227 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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I assume his hoodie says doakley on the back.

FourWheelDrift

88,508 posts

284 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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Mr_Thyroid said:
I assume his hoodie says doakley on the back.

s3fella

10,524 posts

187 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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Either there's some issue with him that caused this, or they really mollycoddle these drivers.

In MotoGP year before last, Jorge Lorenzo highsided, beat himself up and broke a collarbone on the Thursday practice. Flew back to Spain, had an operation to plate it, came back on the Saturday, qualified and then raced Sunday, (came 5th iirc).

So this about letting the sedative used to transport him in the helo leave his system, sounds like a load of old flannel. They'd not leave let Lorenzo ride after a general anaesthetic if it took so long to leave his system.

I really think there's more to this, I am sad to say, as I can only assume the more bit to be bad.

DanielSan

18,786 posts

167 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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Just seems yet more fine PR from the Woking based shambles.

Jacobyte

4,723 posts

242 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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If he were genuinely "completely fine" then he wouldn't need to give "updates next week with progress". Progress with what, exactly, considering he's completely fine?

Can't they just be frank and say "it was hard hit, taking longer to recuperate than expected, but we expect Fernando to be fit for Melbourne."?

Despite various assertions, I'd be very surprised if there isn't more to it.

IforB

9,840 posts

229 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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s3fella said:
Either there's some issue with him that caused this, or they really mollycoddle these drivers.

In MotoGP year before last, Jorge Lorenzo highsided, beat himself up and broke a collarbone on the Thursday practice. Flew back to Spain, had an operation to plate it, came back on the Saturday, qualified and then raced Sunday, (came 5th iirc).

So this about letting the sedative used to transport him in the helo leave his system, sounds like a load of old flannel. They'd not leave let Lorenzo ride after a general anaesthetic if it took so long to leave his system.

I really think there's more to this, I am sad to say, as I can only assume the more bit to be bad.
There is a difference between a concussion and a broken bone. Lorenzo is a hard so and so, but getting knocked out worries docs more than a "simple" collar bone break, so I think it's reasonable that he wasn't out there straight away.

This was also "only" testing and so why push yourself to the limit? There's only one car and two other drivers in the team who are perfectly able to do the 7 laps that the McLaren seems to be capable of.

s3fella

10,524 posts

187 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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Not sure you understands hat I said. I mean he was kept in in order to let the sedative used to transport him by hello to leave his system....kept in hospital for that........

And yet Lorenzo was allowed to qualify and then race, the day after having a general anaesthetic and flying back to the circuit.

It's nothing to do with how hard someone is, I just don't buy the fact he was being kept in hospital to let a sedative leave his system. I think there's something else going on and it's a shame as I suspect it's not a good thing.

Vaud

50,465 posts

155 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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One had concussion and was sedated, the other was just sedated/anethetised?

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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Most broken collar bones are operated on under local anaesthetic.

IforB

9,840 posts

229 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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s3fella said:
Not sure you understands hat I said. I mean he was kept in in order to let the sedative used to transport him by hello to leave his system....kept in hospital for that........

And yet Lorenzo was allowed to qualify and then race, the day after having a general anaesthetic and flying back to the circuit.

It's nothing to do with how hard someone is, I just don't buy the fact he was being kept in hospital to let a sedative leave his system. I think there's something else going on and it's a shame as I suspect it's not a good thing.
Alonso won't have been kept in because of the anaesthetic, but because he had been out cold and they wanted to observe him. Getting a bang on the bonce can be bad news, so with a name like Alonso in a Spanish hospital, they will have been ultra cautious.

mistakenplane

426 posts

120 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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We also dont know Alonso's medical history. IIRC he had an injury from bouncing across the kerbs in Abu Dhabi a couple of years back, so perhaps he has had several concussions in his career and this was a concern.

Dont forget Dario Franchitti is physically fine now to race, but due to his head injuries he cannot risk another accident.

slipstream 1985

12,220 posts

179 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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FourWheelDrift said:
steviejasp said:
He's got James Mays' shoes on.
Rubber soles are good insulators, notice the nurses not touching him, he's still charged up.
No but to get better he had to think possitive

darreni

3,788 posts

270 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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mistakenplane said:
We also dont know Alonso's medical history. IIRC he had an injury from bouncing across the kerbs in Abu Dhabi a couple of years back, so perhaps he has had several concussions in his career and this was a concern.

Dont forget Dario Franchitti is physically fine now to race, but due to his head injuries he cannot risk another accident.
A few years ago I suffered concussion following a blow to my left temple & did not feel right for weeks afterwards, just felt unbalanced & generally not with it.

The teams story may well be totally genuine, would you want to risk a star asset in a 200 mph missile who was not one hundred percent fit?

HarryW

15,150 posts

269 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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slipstream 1985 said:
FourWheelDrift said:
steviejasp said:
He's got James Mays' shoes on.
Rubber soles are good insulators, notice the nurses not touching him, he's still charged up.
No but to get better he had to think possitive
Yes I agree, there is too much negativity around, much better if people keep their feet on the ground and be positive

FourWheelDrift

88,508 posts

284 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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HarryW said:
slipstream 1985 said:
FourWheelDrift said:
steviejasp said:
He's got James Mays' shoes on.
Rubber soles are good insulators, notice the nurses not touching him, he's still charged up.
No but to get better he had to think possitive
Yes I agree, there is too much negativity around, much better if people keep their feet on the ground and be positive
He was ex-static when he left the hospital because he got a call from Volts-Wagon asking him to drive for them next year if it goes wrong with Honda, he said he had no resistance to the offer and he conduit.

Potatoes

3,572 posts

170 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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The story continues to develop...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/31713292

hornetrider

63,161 posts

205 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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Potatoes said:
The story continues to develop...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/31713292
yikes

I'm off to buy shares in tinfoil.

Tyre Tread

10,534 posts

216 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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Vaud said:
Tyre Tread said:
Alonso's way of getting paid fort the season (back pain and severe headaches) while avoiding the embarrasment of driving a dog and the team avoids an embarrassing walkout by Alonso?

Who can prove if someone feels back pain or headaches?
Pass the tin foil hat.
How are my odds looking now? wink

Vaud

50,465 posts

155 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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Tyre Tread said:
How are my odds looking now? wink
Slim. If he sees out the whole season due to a concussion then that would be end of career. I doubt they have a WDC chance this year, so they would want ALO back in the car for most points.

Tyre Tread

10,534 posts

216 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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Vaud said:
Tyre Tread said:
How are my odds looking now? wink
Slim. If he sees out the whole season due to a concussion then that would be end of career. I doubt they have a WDC chance this year, so they would want ALO back in the car for most points.
They could use it (and other pretexts) to keep him out of the car until its better developed thus protecting his "I can drag a donkey around ...etc" image and save his face and maintain his stats. He won't want his success record (such as it is) to be diluted by a dog of a car as it would hurt his ego and marketability. Maybe its his way of keeping his options open until he sees if the car can be made to work.