Mk1 996 GT3 to Gen 2 997 GT3

[Singh911]

How much of an upgrade would this be - i know "worth" is purely subjective but i'd be interested to hear from anyone who has done this.

I am looking at this http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p... Gen 2 GT3 for £84k.

I guess my mk1 gt3 (23k miles, lhd) could fetch c£45k?? So around car plus £40k to change. I've had the gt3 for 9 years since it had 2k on the clock. Have loved it. I wonder if the cost to change is worth it or would i regret it.

I mainly drive the GT3 in the summer months, one or two long Euro road trips a year and the odd track day.

Any thoughts welcome.

Cheers

Edited by Singh911 on Monday 23 February 18:28

[PorscheGT4]

I don't get this car, it's been for sales ages at the lowest price.

must be a story on it

[GT3cs]

It's sold isn't it . Deposit taken has been on the ads for several weeks / months .

[arcamalpha]

The Gen2 997 has a lot more torque which will make it feel quicker, and it's a much nicer place to be inside. However, in your shoes, as a high days and holidays car, I don't think I'd swap. Instead I'd spend small (comparatively) money keeping your 996 in good shape and enjoy it as much as possible. Over several years you could spend a hell of a lot less than £40k and have some ice upgrades if you fancies it - brakes, engine capacity increase, suspension, you name it.

[Mermaid]

arcamalpha said:

The Gen2 997 has a lot more torque which will make it feel quicker, and it's a much nicer place to be inside. However, in your shoes, as a high days and holidays car, I don't think I'd swap. Instead I'd spend small (comparatively) money keeping your 996 in good shape and enjoy it as much as possible. .

[pete a]

That's been sold for ages, along with most of the other stupid fking ads on pistonheads.

[Steve Rance]

Mermaid said:

I third this second!

Keep your 996. A lot cheaper and more involving.

[Cheburator mk2]

Singh911 said:

How much of an upgrade would this be - i know "worth" is purely subjective but i'd be interested to hear from anyone who has done this.

I am looking at this http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p... Gen 2 GT3 for £84k.

I guess my mk1 gt3 (23k miles, lhd) could fetch c£45k?? So around car plus £40k to change. I've had the gt3 for 9 years since it had 2k on the clock. Have loved it. I wonder if the cost to change is worth it or would i regret it.

I mainly drive the GT3 in the summer months, one or two long Euro road trips a year and the odd track day.

Any thoughts welcome.

Cheers

Edited by Singh911 on Monday 23 February 18:28

I think you are under selling the Mk1. No idea on spec - comfort or CS, standard or modified, but there is not a single car In Europe for sale with your mileage and at that price.

I think Europe is seeing an interesting development - the crazy asking prices for the .6 RS are dragging up the vanilla cars. Given that the Mk1 is almost a Youngtimer, it carries the "assembled at Weissach by hand" tag, it was the first of the new breed and it was also the closest a water cooled roadgoing Porsche was to its Motorsport sibling, I would keep it and lavish care upon it.

Mark my words, in 5yrs time a Mk1 CS would be worth more than a 7.1 CS because it will not be about speed - by then both will be hopelessly slow against the Mk2 991RS with hybrid technology. It will be all about the lineage, tactility, driver involvement and who started it. Just as how a 964RS is at £250k now...

[curley]

I don't think you would get a decent 997.2 for £85K now .

Mine sold in 24 hours last week for £95K , not sure what demand for the 996 is like but the cost to change probably isn't worth it .

[jackal]

If like me, you crave and seek the absolute essence of driving, the purest of all nectars ... then it would be a downgrade IMO.

[m33ufo]

As has already been mentioned, the link you posted has long gone. Very frustrating that the powers that be in Pidtonheads Towers don't sort out the mess some dealers are making of the classifieds.

This appears to be current:

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...

[Singh911]

All in all very unequivocal answers. My car is a comfort spec with half cage and bucket seats. Has the Mk2 floating discs and an M & M exhaust remap to 400bhp. I'm not after outright pace but place huge premium on feel, feedback and all that great extra sensory stuff. The new exhaust has delivered aural sensations to go with the brilliant feel thru the steering. I had thought the 997 GT3s took this onto another level but haven't driven one.

Seems I'm 10k+ out of kilter with prices (on both cars?).

I think if I keep the car and don't "upgrade" now, she will be a keeper. Already by far the longest I've kept any car.

Cheers

[Scooty100]

Steve Rance said:

I third this second!

Keep your 996. A lot cheaper and more involving.

Errr Steve you bought a 997 Gt3 recently!

[Yellow491]

Singh911 said:

All in all very unequivocal answers. My car is a comfort spec with half cage and bucket seats. Has the Mk2 floating discs and an M & M exhaust remap to 400bhp. I'm not after outright pace but place huge premium on feel, feedback and all that great extra sensory stuff. The new exhaust has delivered aural sensations to go with the brilliant feel thru the steering. I had thought the 997 GT3s took this onto another level but haven't driven one.

Seems I'm 10k+ out of kilter with prices (on both cars?).

I think if I keep the car and don't "upgrade" now, she will be a keeper. Already by far the longest I've kept any car.

Cheers

Deff not on another level,stay mk1 996.,give it a extra 50 bhp,The gen 2 997 gt3 is a bit better than the gen 1.

[ttdan]

Singh911 said:

All in all very unequivocal answers. My car is a comfort spec with half cage and bucket seats. Has the Mk2 floating discs and an M & M exhaust remap to 400bhp. I'm not after outright pace but place huge premium on feel, feedback and all that great extra sensory stuff. The new exhaust has delivered aural sensations to go with the brilliant feel thru the steering. I had thought the 997 GT3s took this onto another level but haven't driven one.

Seems I'm 10k+ out of kilter with prices (on both cars?).

I think if I keep the car and don't "upgrade" now, she will be a keeper. Already by far the longest I've kept any car.

Cheers

If you can, go and drive a gen 2 car and make your own mind up. Both would be nice...

[MJS]

To the OP that was a question I was debating over the last few weeks.... cost to change up from a 996 GT3 (mk2 in this case). I really like the 997 Gen 2 and I would probably end up driving it more than the 996, but you can do alot of other stuff with £35k or so!

It seems like £95k is the current level for the Gen 2, very hard to judge on the 996 as there are even fewer around for sale.

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...

[braddo]

The OP should go visit JZM, for a drive of their 997.2 and a valuation of his current car. Should make the decision easier either way.

[Mermaid]

braddo said:

The OP should go visit JZM, for a drive of their 997.2 and a valuation of his current car. Should make the decision easier either way.

That's sound advice.

[Singh911]

That JZM advert for their gen 2. Quoting from the ad "we are happy to report that the ECU data shows no signs of over revs in five of the six ranges."

So they're saying there are over revs in one of the six ranges?

[pete a]

Singh911 said:

That JZM advert for their gen 2. Quoting from the ad "we are happy to report that the ECU data shows no signs of over revs in five of the six ranges."

So they're saying there are over revs in one of the six ranges?

Rev range one not an issue, anything 3-6 worry about, 1-2 don't worry.