"Smart Watches" - when will someone like AP or PP step in?

"Smart Watches" - when will someone like AP or PP step in?

Author
Discussion

AdvocatusD

Original Poster:

2,277 posts

231 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
quotequote all
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-31442448

I wouldn't give up what I usually wear on my wrist for any of the smartwatches on sale, but if this does take off (and it might!), do you think any of the "proper" watch brands will take it on?

I'm thinking of something like a Reverso with the traditional face on the front and the Star Trek stuff on the back. Ha! Edited to add that someone has come up with a concept already.

|http://thumbsnap.com/ypKudh1X[/url]


Edited by AdvocatusD on Tuesday 24th February 15:44

SlidingSideways

1,345 posts

232 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
quotequote all
AdvocatusD said:
but if this does take off (and it might!)
Pebble have opened the Kickstarter project for their new watch today and currently have >8000 backers with $1.5m raised.
I think it's safe to say it's taken off smile


davepoth

29,395 posts

199 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
quotequote all
Traditional watch makers will be wary of this market IMO. Ever since digital watches took the lead in "telling the time" they have not been utility items where you were paying big money to get the most accurate watch - all the accuracy you need is in a £20 Casio.

There's the question of depreciation too. Consider cameras. A twenty year old film camera body is still worth a certain amount of money, because the film is still the same, and the lens is still the same. A twenty year old digital camera is a doorstop - at best a novelty item. The same will likely be the case with smartwatches, and for brands that pride themselves on exclusivity, their brands being sold at car boot sales for £20 is a problem.

gregf40

1,114 posts

116 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
quotequote all
They won't.

Hoofy

76,345 posts

282 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
quotequote all
gregf40 said:
They won't.
Agreed.

I think they pooped themselves in the 1980s when digital watches came out but proper watch enthusiasts stuck two fingers up at Japanese technology. I imagine they might do one for headlines ie marketing.

GCH

3,991 posts

202 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
quotequote all
Loved that reverso concept when I first saw it last year... can't see it happening though!

Dr JonboyG

2,561 posts

239 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
quotequote all
Smart watches make sense if they're cheap. An Apple Watch might not be my taste, but for $350 or whatever, would be fine for a couple of years until it's obsolete because the connection protocol isn't supported anymore and the hardware is too slow to run the most up-to-date OS and the battery doesn't hold a charge for an entire day. But the Sport model is going to cost way more - thoughts are $5000 for the rose gold model. $5k for a watch that will last for decades? Sure. For one that won't be any use by 2020? You must be mad.

leglessAlex

5,438 posts

141 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
quotequote all
I think it's more likely that a new 'boutique' company will emerge that makes smart watches in the higher price brackets.

Form what I read companies like Rolex et al. take care over the residuals of their product, I can't imagine them selling something that becomes obsolete in a year or two. High end watches are basically functional jewellery and jewellery doesn't ever seem to become 'obsolete' as such.

I wonder more about whether high end watch makers will survive, the vast majority of my friends (I'm 23) don't wear a watch and if the make a lot of money they still aren't going to want one. A smart watch on the other hand, they will want that.

Mark-C

5,069 posts

205 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
quotequote all
leglessAlex said:
I think it's more likely that a new 'boutique' company will emerge that makes smart watches in the higher price brackets.

Form what I read companies like Rolex et al. take care over the residuals of their product, I can't imagine them selling something that becomes obsolete in a year or two. High end watches are basically functional jewellery and jewellery doesn't ever seem to become 'obsolete' as such.

I wonder more about whether high end watch makers will survive, the vast majority of my friends (I'm 23) don't wear a watch and if the make a lot of money they still aren't going to want one. A smart watch on the other hand, they will want that.
I think it's possible that proper watches may go the way of the turntable and become a niche item. Smart watches will take over quite quickly because, as above, nobody needs one to tell the time anymore but phones are too big to whip out of your pocket quickly.

High end watches, just like Sondeks etc, will survive but in a smaller market.

I'd love to be wrong thumbup

jamesh764

184 posts

142 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
quotequote all
Most of the people I know who work in the IT Industry, where you would expect there to be a high take-up of smart watches, use traditional watches, with hands, that only tell the time.

They will over-complicate every other aspect of their lives, with smart thermostats on their heating, smart home cinema systems, smart lighting etc, but they will have a straightforward, simple watch.

DUMBO100

1,878 posts

184 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
quotequote all
I think the Apple Watch will be a big hit and I might get one myself but I expect the sport to be the most popular model because of the price. Aprox £250 and the fitness and health data that it provides. Most of my friends wear a Fit Bit and the Apple watch is really just a better version of it

jdw100

4,110 posts

164 months

Wednesday 25th February 2015
quotequote all
I can see a company (new or existing) meeting a need at the higher end - like Vertu did for mobile phones.

http://www.vertu.com/gb/en/home

sjg

7,452 posts

265 months

Wednesday 25th February 2015
quotequote all
Dr JonboyG said:
(re: Apple Watch) But the Sport model is going to cost way more - thoughts are $5000 for the rose gold model. $5k for a watch that will last for decades? Sure. For one that won't be any use by 2020? You must be mad.
At the very least, I've seen estimates at much higher than that.

There is a very substantial market of people who can afford to spend that on a whim without a care in the world about the retained value in a couple of years time. There are plenty of people buying expensive conventional watches like that, and high fashion items (clothing, shoes, bags) that have an even shorter expected life. It'll be a drop in the ocean next to expenditure on other things.

Debaser

5,792 posts

261 months

Wednesday 25th February 2015
quotequote all
Smart watches will probably end up as popular as digital watches are today.

Civpilot

6,235 posts

240 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
quotequote all
Debaser said:
Smart watches will probably end up as popular as digital watches are today.
So very popular then?

Debaser

5,792 posts

261 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
quotequote all
Civpilot said:
So very popular then?
Wouldn't surprise me. But I don't think they'll be the kind of watch you'll buy from AP or PP. A bit like digital watches today.

bobbybee

872 posts

154 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
quotequote all
But Breitling might.
I mean they already make emergency watches, super quartz watches with twin digital displays etc.
So why not a smart watch?

Debaser

5,792 posts

261 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
quotequote all
bobbybee said:
But Breitling might.
I mean they already make emergency watches, super quartz watches with twin digital displays etc.
So why not a smart watch?
Yes, Breitling might, but I doubt AP or PP will.

sad61t

1,100 posts

210 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
quotequote all
DUMBO100 said:
I think the Apple Watch will be a big hit and I might get one myself but I expect the sport to be the most popular model because of the price. Aprox £250 and the fitness and health data that it provides. Most of my friends wear a Fit Bit and the Apple watch is really just a better version of it
Might be wrong, but I'd heard that Apple were dropping the health monitoring... yep, a quick use of the Google meta-brain agrees with me. It's just heart-rate monitoring now after all the other sensors turned out so inaccurate as to be snake-oil.

utgjon

713 posts

173 months

Friday 27th February 2015
quotequote all
http://www.ablogtowatch.com/mmt-horological-smartw...

Interesting article discussing exactly this - with a very handsome looking proposition!