Rear exhaust pipes ?

Rear exhaust pipes ?

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stesrg

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1,559 posts

238 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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Should I do this again ? or a different Quad set up like 4 in the middle ?
opinions please smile
Ste .


griffdude

1,823 posts

248 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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I liked it, it's all down to how well it's executed tho'.

But VW Golfs come with 4 exhausts now...

Not much help really.... sorry.

Barreti

6,680 posts

237 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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Whats wrong with the 2 exhaust setup we are familiar with?

steve-V8s

2,901 posts

248 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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The standard arrangement adds to already rather poor areo under the car. The boot floor is nicely diffuser shaped but the flow is all messed up with the splayed out pipes. Two coming straight back gives much improved flow under the car.

BarnFind

492 posts

146 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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How about 8 pipes ?

Shezbo

600 posts

130 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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steve-V8s said:
The standard arrangement adds to already rather poor areo under the car. The boot floor is nicely diffuser shaped but the flow is all messed up with the splayed out pipes. Two coming straight back gives much improved flow under the car.
I think you have slipped into the twilight zone....I don't think air passing under your car will effect performance in Speed Camera Britain. I do hope that was tongue in cheek?

stesrg

Original Poster:

1,559 posts

238 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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BarnFind said:
How about 8 pipes ?
8 EIGHT spin Pipes eek I think to much weight nono could do em in Alloy though ? but I think 4 is the limit ,
I was thinking more like central quads with trumpet cone ends ? slightly up swept I dunno just toying on the Idea atm

Ste .

GlynMo

1,140 posts

249 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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4 pipes = trying too hard.

IMO.

macdeb

8,508 posts

255 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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2 is enough IMO.
If you're after a different look at the back, why not work on raising the tail pipes and moulding boot floor round them slightly like Chimaera [I know, I know wait for flack] but it would look more 'factory' than 'max-power'. Just an idea hippy

steve-V8s

2,901 posts

248 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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Shezbo said:
I think you have slipped into the twilight zone....I don't think air passing under your car will effect performance in Speed Camera Britain. I do hope that was tongue in cheek?
Not really tongue in cheek, air flow under the car and particularly how it exits at the rear has a considerable effect. Try sticking you hand out of the window at 60mph to feel the forces then consider the surface area of the exit pipes compared to your hand.

To be fair I was thinking of track or competition use as improvements are more noticeable above 90 mph or so but even at lower speeds drag and lift are quite significant. The Griff has an almost flat floor but it is spoilt by the anti roll bar arrangement and the exhaust exit pipes.

To make the air flow work properly it ideally needs a splitter at the front to send more of the air over the top and speed up the remainder that does go underneath, then it needs a nice clean tapered exit at the rear and ideally small spoiler on the boot lip, the easiest of those to do is the exhaust.

Almost all recent car designs have some sort token effort at deflecting air at the front and getting it out cleanly at the rear, the better ones actually have flat floors and diffuser shaped boot floors to reduce drag and lift. Mostly the entire exhaust system is tucked up out of the air flow.

phazed

21,844 posts

204 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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Have a look at Precats.

He has a rear diffuser and a central pipe,(pipes?).

jr6yam

1,303 posts

183 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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macdeb said:
If you're after a different look at the back, why not work on raising the tail pipes and moulding boot floor round them slightly like Chimaera [I know, I know wait for flack] but it would look more 'factory' than 'max-power'. Just an idea hippy
And, maybe, have one big single pipe...


Edmundo2

1,342 posts

210 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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Standard looks great and personally don't like four. Only other option I'd consider, ( if I still owned one! ), is side exit if car was suitably modded but not sure if could exit below rear end of sill or would need to be poking through wing just ahead of rear arch? If so could a subtle diffuser/flat floor leave a nice finish at rear? Just a thought

Hoover.

5,988 posts

242 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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phazed said:
Have a look at Precats.

He has a rear diffuser and a central pipe,(pipes?).
and some big flames hehe

stesrg

Original Poster:

1,559 posts

238 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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D
Hoover. said:
and some big flames hehe
Rear diffuser scratchchinsounds interesting is their any photos ?
Ste.

jesfirth

1,743 posts

242 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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My home grown rear diffuser. Not for the faint hearted but it does work. I have modified my exhausts to be straight and centre exit to avoid impacting on the airflow as well. You can just see the tips of the pipes in the middle. It is a very easy mod to do. Just cut them before the bend sideways add a small straight section and use the original curve rotated 90 degrees to kick them up slightly at the back.



My front splitter



Edited by jesfirth on Sunday 1st March 18:13

phazed

21,844 posts

204 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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Your splitter is so similar to mine!


jesfirth

1,743 posts

242 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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Except yours looks a lot prettier! Did you make it yourself?

phazed

21,844 posts

204 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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jesfirth said:
Except yours looks a lot prettier! Did you make it yourself?
No, a friend had it made for a cerb.

I chopped it about and recently fitted it to my chim.

Hopefully it will knock a tenth off my time at Curborough wink

stesrg

Original Poster:

1,559 posts

238 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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phazed said:
No, a friend had it made for a cerb.

I chopped it about and recently fitted it to my chim.

Hopefully it will knock a tenth off my time at Curborough wink
Ohhhh churborough been round their a few times my old sunbeam alpine was faster round the circuit than the Griff !!
Lol.