Migration into UK soars

[Mermaid]

Cameron's policy on immigration is toast. Pity


"The Government has officially failed to deliver on its pledge to slash net migration to the tens of thousands before the general election as the last batch of official figures before May 7 revealed another surge in arrivals.

There was a net flow of 298,000 migrants to the UK in the year to September, equal to the population of a city roughly the size of Nottingham and up from 210,000 in the previous 12 months, according to the Office for National Statistics (ONS).

The increase in net migration was driven by a "statistically significant" rise in immigrants arriving in the UK - up to 624,000 in the year to September from 530,000 in the previous 12 months. Around 327,000 people emigrated from the UK in the same period.

Today's figures are the final nail in the coffin for the promise made by Prime Minister David Cameron and Home Secretary Theresa May to slash net migration to below 100,000 by the end of the current parliamentary term.

There were significant increases in immigration of non-EU citizens - up 49,000 to 292,000 - and European Union citizens - up 43,000 to 251,000"


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa/article-296957...

[oyster]

Good.

More taxpayers to help offset the ageing population.

[HonestIago]

oyster said:

Good.

More taxpayers to help offset the ageing population.

I do hope that's sarcasm!

[Burrow01]

How many people died in the UK in the same period?

There were 506,790 deaths registered in England and Wales in 2013, a rise of 1.5% compared with 2012.

So equivalent to city twice the size of Nottingham died in 2013....

Edited by Burrow01 on Thursday 26th February 10:43

Edited by Burrow01 on Thursday 26th February 10:44

[Yazar]

oyster said:

Good.

More taxpayers to help offset the ageing population.

Low paid workers aren't net tax payers. Min wage/part time workers take out far more than they pay in.

[Axionknight]

As control of our borders to EU migrants remains in the hands of an undemocratic third party this should come as no surprise to anybody, nor will the trend change, in my opinion, as other European countries continue to economically suffer and by comparison, we do not, allegedly.

[HonestIago]

Axionknight said:

As control of our borders to EU migrants remains in the hands of an undemocratic third party this should come as no surprise to anybody, nor will the trend change, in my opinion, as other European countries continue to economically suffer and by comparison, we do not, allegedly.

Non-EU immigration has also increased. Cameron has done nothing to reduce third-world immigration despite having the power to do so. He is an enemy of the British people.

[JagLover]

Mermaid said:

There were significant increases in immigration of non-EU citizens - up 49,000 to 292,000

and this will continue to remain high until we scrap the incorporation of the ECHR into British law.

[Axionknight]

HonestIago said:

Non-EU immigration has also increased. Cameron has done nothing to reduce third-world immigration despite having the power to do so. He is an enemy of the British people.

Woah there pal, I think you need to come off of the fence and say what you really feel!

[Axionknight]

Burrow01 said:

How many people died in the UK in the same period?

There were 506,790 deaths registered in England and Wales in 2013, a rise of 1.5% compared with 2012.

So equivalent to city twice the size of Nottingham died in 2013....

Edited by Burrow01 on Thursday 26th February 10:43

Edited by Burrow01 on Thursday 26th February 10:44

How many were born and of those, who were born of migrants who have arrived here in say, the last five years?

[Vee8man]

Burrow01 said:

How many people died in the UK in the same period?

There were 506,790 deaths registered in England and Wales in 2013, a rise of 1.5% compared with 2012.

So equivalent to city twice the size of Nottingham died in 2013....

Edited by Burrow01 on Thursday 26th February 10:43

Edited by Burrow01 on Thursday 26th February 10:44

Can't discuss deaths without talking births....
There were 698,512 live births in England and Wales in 2013, a decrease of 4.3% from 729,674 in 2012.
In 2013, the Total Fertility Rate (TFR) decreased to 1.85 children per woman, from 1.94 in 2012.
In 2013 the stillbirth rate fell to 4.7 per thousand total births, from 4.9 in 2012.
The average age of mothers in 2013 increased to 30.0 years, compared with 29.8 years in 2012.
Over a quarter (26.5%) of live births were to mothers born outside the UK; a small increase compared with 25.9% in 2012.

[oyster]

HonestIago said:

oyster said:

Good.

More taxpayers to help offset the ageing population.

I do hope that's sarcasm!

How do you prpose to fill current vacancies if we can't import skills?

In any case, immigration and flow of labour is as capitalistic as it gets.

[Einion Yrth]

oyster said:

immigration and flow of labour is as capitalistic as it gets.

Only if the immigrant labour is entirely supported by employers. This does not appear to be the case.

[JagLover]

oyster said:

How do you prpose to fill current vacancies if we can't import skills?

Do you really think there are 500,000 or so jobs a year that can only be filled from abroad?.

A skilled worker visa scheme would see migration in the tens of thousands not hundreds of thousands.

[Esseesse]

Hmmm, comments not allowed on the linked article.

[Yazar]

oyster said:

How do you prpose to fill current vacancies if we can't import skills?

In any case, immigration and flow of labour is as capitalistic as it gets.

Are there more big issue spots left to fill? My mistake, I thought every waitrose had a Romanian outside already... Carry on with a non-criteria led open border.

p.s. Are bailouts part of capitalism too?

[HonestIago]

JagLover said:

oyster said:

How do you prpose to fill current vacancies if we can't import skills?

Do you really think there are 500,000 or so jobs a year that can only be filled from abroad?.

A skilled worker visa scheme would see migration in the tens of thousands not hundreds of thousands.

Pray tell what skills shortages we're addressing by importing thousands of illiterate, non-English speaking, Religion-of-Peace adherents from the third world.

[Mrr T]

JagLover said:

Do you really think there are 500,000 or so jobs a year that can only be filled from abroad?.

Well since unemployment has fallen to 5.8% and job vacancies are now back at 2001 levels I would suggest the statistics say YES.

[Yazar]

HonestIago said:

Non-EU immigration has also increased.

To be fair, we need to see a breakdown of which visa method they entered by and where from. Suspect average non-eu will be of a higher calibre than the unrestricted EU influx.

[ATG]

It was a stupid promise made to attract stupid voters. It was clearly undeliverable. Furthermore delivering it would have been a bad thing. We attract a lot of cheap foreign labour and a lot of extremely highly skilled foreign labour. If that's more competition for our homegrown workers at either end of the skills scale, good. Competition is good. Diversity is good. Anyone who feels threatened by it, tough.