When is a 2-lane road not a 2-lane road?

When is a 2-lane road not a 2-lane road?

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Twilkes

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478 posts

139 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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I got caught out on the road below - a sign for parking a quarter of a mile ahead, and the road turning into two-lanes, like having a crawler lane on an uphill. I went to the right lane to overtake a car that was travelling at 50mph, and then if you click down the road in Google Maps you'll see what caught me out:

http://goo.gl/maps/c50uV

Was I careless, unlucky, or both?

walm

10,609 posts

202 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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Not sure what caught you out but many people don't know the difference between a two lane road and a dual carriageway.
Was it that?

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

261 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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Caught out for what?

SonicShadow

2,452 posts

154 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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Yeah, no idea what OP was caught out by.

SK425

1,034 posts

149 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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Me neither. What happened, OP?

tapereel

1,860 posts

116 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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SonicShadow said:
Yeah, no idea what OP was caught out by.
Not being competent to drive perhaps.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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You thought that was a dual carriageway?

It isn't. This is a dual carriageway.
http://goo.gl/maps/iQwhW

There's a clue in the name. One of those roads has two carriageways, one has one.

Twilkes

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478 posts

139 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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Okay yes, not enough information. smile I knew it wasn't a dual carriageway because I've been reading PH for long enough that I knew not to use the phrase 'dual carriageway' where there is no central reservation.

I got caught out because I was overtaking in the right hand lane which lasted all of approximately a quarter of a mile, or 15 seconds at national speed limit, so had to brake and pull back in behind.

Moonhawk

10,730 posts

219 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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I don't get it either. Looks like a fairly standard single carriageway that has a crawler lane on the up hill section. This crawler lane merges back into a single lane at the top of the hill.

Double solid white lines separate the opposing lanes up until the parking place.

What am I missing confused

Moonhawk

10,730 posts

219 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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Twilkes said:
Okay yes, not enough information. smile I knew it wasn't a dual carriageway because I've been reading PH for long enough that I knew not to use the phrase 'dual carriageway' where there is no central reservation.

I got caught out because I was overtaking in the right hand lane which lasted all of approximately a quarter of a mile, or 15 seconds at national speed limit, so had to brake and pull back in behind.
Ah ok. You got caught out not having a fast enough car biggrin

SK425

1,034 posts

149 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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Ah. I see. Damn crawler lanes only lasting as long as the uphill bit smile.

There's no indication at the start of how long it's going to be - wouldn't expect any - but the return arrows give you fair notice that the end is nigh. Did you manage to get past them on the lovely long straight soon after?

Twilkes

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478 posts

139 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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No I think they turned off a few minutes up the road. I wasn't even that fussed about passing them, was just a bit taken aback when I was level with them and the road started to disappear. Apparently this kind of thing causes a lot of accidents on the A9 up to Inverness, even people driving on the wrong side of the road because they thought it was still dual-lane (sometimes the carriageways are not visible from each other during the dual-lane sections), but yes should have spotted the arrows earlier.

ging84

8,897 posts

146 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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It looks absolutely normal to me, viewing it on google street view might make it appear a little longer than it does at 60mph, but it's not at all unsual for these lanes to be very short
last time i drove down the a35 it was full of them

walm

10,609 posts

202 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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Worst "I'm slightly unobservant while I drive" post, ever. wink

Moonhawk

10,730 posts

219 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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walm said:
Worst "I'm slightly unobservant while I drive" post, ever. wink
....and I drive a slow arsed car biggrin

Twilkes

Original Poster:

478 posts

139 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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Moonhawk said:
....and I drive a slow arsed car biggrin
I'll have you know that our Honda Jazz can go from 0-60. smile

Dave Hedgehog

14,550 posts

204 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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Twilkes said:
Moonhawk said:
....and I drive a slow arsed car biggrin
I'll have you know that our Honda Jazz can go from 0-60. smile
get yourself one of them golf R thingies on a £300 lease

problem solved smile

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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Twilkes said:
Okay yes, not enough information. smile
So you tried to overtake when there wasn't enough space to do so?

zedx19

2,745 posts

140 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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What? This looks like a normal road to me, splits into 2 to allow faster moving vehicles past those who will slow uphill, lorries, buses etc. You say you were caught out when the road merged back to 1 and you were level with the car? There's massive arrows on the road surface giving you plenty of warning to either boot it or pull back in. Have you mistakenly posted this on PH when you should have posted on Mumsnet?

Twilkes

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478 posts

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Thursday 26th February 2015
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TooMany2cvs said:
So you tried to overtake when there wasn't enough space to do so?
If you mean I pulled into the 2nd lane because there was a slower car in the 1st lane, and when I reached the arrows 200 metres later I had to decide whether to plough on ahead or brake and tuck in behind, so I tucked in behind, then yes.

First time on the road, and Scotland has a few roads that alternate between single and dual lane so I assumed that was the case here.