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silverspeed said:
Yes I would be surprised after what I was told at Gaydon just before Christmas.
What was that then?I must admit the biggest single factor preventing me from jumping into a V12VS already is a worry that long term I won't like SS3 as much as the manual, although I have to say I did quite like it on the test drive I had.
This could be a very interesting outturn if true!
Solely for selfish reasons, I do hope not
I'd have one hell of a problem deciding what to do if they offer a V12VS manual roadster...........
It will also hit residuals on V12V coupes & roadsters which currently, are surely helped partly by them currently being the last of the manuals
Having said that costwise, to produce a manual V12VS it surely can't be a big deal to the factory bearing in mind SS is effectively a manual transmission at it's core - I don;t see the need for any RS model that might come out to be linked to whether it's 3 pedal or 2 - they can offer both options in either a V12VS and/or a V12V RS at negligible additional cost
I'd have one hell of a problem deciding what to do if they offer a V12VS manual roadster...........
It will also hit residuals on V12V coupes & roadsters which currently, are surely helped partly by them currently being the last of the manuals
Having said that costwise, to produce a manual V12VS it surely can't be a big deal to the factory bearing in mind SS is effectively a manual transmission at it's core - I don;t see the need for any RS model that might come out to be linked to whether it's 3 pedal or 2 - they can offer both options in either a V12VS and/or a V12V RS at negligible additional cost
jonby said:
Solely for selfish reasons, I do hope not
It will also hit residuals on V12V coupes & roadsters which currently, are surely helped partly by them currently being the last of the manuals
Yup, I would agree with that! It will also hit residuals on V12V coupes & roadsters which currently, are surely helped partly by them currently being the last of the manuals
jonby said:
Having said that costwise, to produce a manual V12VS it surely can't be a big deal to the factory bearing in mind SS is effectively a manual transmission at it's core - I don;t see the need for any RS model that might come out to be linked to whether it's 3 pedal or 2 - they can offer both options in either a V12VS and/or a V12V RS at negligible additional cost
Agree too, I can imagine that the RS might have the GT3 final engine tweaks delivered back into a std production model, and as you say manual or SS being possibly available on either S or RS.Would have to say that a "RS Manual" would make for a hell of a run off finale for the V12V model!
I wonder if they will offer the DB9/Vanq with a manual in their final form before we see the new models come in. I somehow doubt the next gen GT cars will have a manual option.
There would be something satisfying about a "Vanq S" with 600+ hp and a manual box as the send off for this generation
There would be something satisfying about a "Vanq S" with 600+ hp and a manual box as the send off for this generation
nickco201 said:
I wonder if they will offer the DB9/Vanq with a manual in their final form before we see the new models come in. I somehow doubt the next gen GT cars will have a manual option.
There would be something satisfying about a "Vanq S" with 600+ hp and a manual box as the send off for this generation
re-engineering would be a different kettle of fish - the GTs have a torque convertor auto box - can;t see it ever happeningThere would be something satisfying about a "Vanq S" with 600+ hp and a manual box as the send off for this generation
KarlFranz said:
Rumor from a little birdie is that the V12VS will be made available with a proper manual gearbox later this year.
Share your thoughts...
Or you could say old fashioned Manual? Share your thoughts...
Not wishing to get too involved, but having a V12VS and SS3, there's no way I would ever go back to a three pedal set up. It makes no sense. SS3 gives you complete control, both hands on the wheel, and significantly faster gear changes. Bit like comparing drum brakes to carbon ceramics. Although, drum brakes might work better in the wet......
avinalarf said:
Driving a manual is like having good sex.
There is nothing more satisfying than building up the revs and ,just at that right moment,slapping that knob into gear.
I thought manual meant doing it by yourself There is nothing more satisfying than building up the revs and ,just at that right moment,slapping that knob into gear.
Anyway that's a strange definition of sex you have there...surely it's switching off the light, lying awkwardly in silence for a few minutes followed by a quick thrash followed by another awkward silence and a feeling of self loathing...weird people on here...
SELON said:
I thought manual meant doing it by yourself
Anyway that's a strange definition of sex you have there...surely it's switching off the light, lying awkwardly in silence for a few minutes followed by a quick thrash followed by another awkward silence and a feeling of self loathing...weird people on here...
Anyway that's a strange definition of sex you have there...surely it's switching off the light, lying awkwardly in silence for a few minutes followed by a quick thrash followed by another awkward silence and a feeling of self loathing...weird people on here...
AMDBSNick said:
This car exists......
As what though ?On 6speed, someone has posted some very specific info about the RS suggesting
There will be 102 build worldwide, 76 coming to The Americas (includes Canada, Mexico, South America.) US allocation is 2 cars per dealer, will be roadsters and coupes
That to me makes no sense - there would be 8 variants (LHD & RHD, roadster & coupe, manual & flappy paddle) for 102 cars
Surely there is some mix up between the RS (which one assumes if it happens is a slightly scaled back GT3) and a possibility of a manual version of V12VS, with the two being separate issues ?
This is all just a guess btw - I have no info on any of this
But it would surprise me if they offer a manual only RS which is why I'm guessing an RS model and a mamual option would be two different things
Phil74891 said:
Or you could say old fashioned Manual?
Not wishing to get too involved, but having a V12VS and SS3, there's no way I would ever go back to a three pedal set up. It makes no sense. SS3 gives you complete control, both hands on the wheel, and significantly faster gear changes. Bit like comparing drum brakes to carbon ceramics. Although, drum brakes might work better in the wet......
Surely you don't buy an Aston for efficiency? If efficiency is what you want you buy a Nissan. If an efficient gearbox is what you want you buy a car with a dual clutch. Not wishing to get too involved, but having a V12VS and SS3, there's no way I would ever go back to a three pedal set up. It makes no sense. SS3 gives you complete control, both hands on the wheel, and significantly faster gear changes. Bit like comparing drum brakes to carbon ceramics. Although, drum brakes might work better in the wet......
You buy an Aston for the joy of listening to it, looking at it, touching it and interacting with it. I chose the V12V partly or largely because it has a clutch pedal and I don't expect ever to want a V12VS. Though it is lovely and I know we lovers of manuals are an endangered species.
Andy Palmer said:
Aston Martin has confirmed that it will continue to offer both V12 engines and manual transmission on future models.
According to Aston Martin CEO Andy Palmer, the V12 engine will be “completely renewed” for future Aston models. This news comes as a surprise to some, as Aston recently inked a deal with Mercedes-AMG to use their twin-turbo V8 engine in future cars.
The newly revised Aston V12 will be markedly different to the current generation V12, according to Palmer. This change is fuelled entirely by the need to meet emissions and environmental regulations.
Palmer went on to confirm that the V12 will be of Aston’s own design and not part of the company’s deal with Mercedes-AMG.
The next Aston Martin set to be released is the replacement for the DB9, which will be heavily influenced by the DB10 concept. While Aston has yet to confirm any details regarding the DB9 replacement, we suspect Aston’s new V12 to be, at the very least, an optional engine choice.
All future Aston Martins will remain driver focused, according to Palmer. As such, all new models will be offered with a manual gearbox.
Aston Martin remains only one of a handful of car manufacturers to offer a manual gearbox in their performance models.
source GTSpirit / Car & Driver:According to Aston Martin CEO Andy Palmer, the V12 engine will be “completely renewed” for future Aston models. This news comes as a surprise to some, as Aston recently inked a deal with Mercedes-AMG to use their twin-turbo V8 engine in future cars.
The newly revised Aston V12 will be markedly different to the current generation V12, according to Palmer. This change is fuelled entirely by the need to meet emissions and environmental regulations.
Palmer went on to confirm that the V12 will be of Aston’s own design and not part of the company’s deal with Mercedes-AMG.
The next Aston Martin set to be released is the replacement for the DB9, which will be heavily influenced by the DB10 concept. While Aston has yet to confirm any details regarding the DB9 replacement, we suspect Aston’s new V12 to be, at the very least, an optional engine choice.
All future Aston Martins will remain driver focused, according to Palmer. As such, all new models will be offered with a manual gearbox.
Aston Martin remains only one of a handful of car manufacturers to offer a manual gearbox in their performance models.
http://www.gtspirit.com/2015/03/11/aston-martin-to...
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