A12 Boreham (Essex) Northbound Exit
Discussion
Looking for some clarification really:
A12 at Boreham, northbound exit. This has recently had a makeover, and although only 2 lanes still the left hand lane has a left arrow in it. What does this mean? Stupid question, but I was told that the left arrow meant turn left, specifically the first left turn, is that correct?
Most people take the left lane for the first two exits, others use the right lane for all exits, except the first, and there is often real confusion as to who should be where. Thoughts? For the record I use the left lane for the first two exits.
Cheers all
A12 at Boreham, northbound exit. This has recently had a makeover, and although only 2 lanes still the left hand lane has a left arrow in it. What does this mean? Stupid question, but I was told that the left arrow meant turn left, specifically the first left turn, is that correct?
Most people take the left lane for the first two exits, others use the right lane for all exits, except the first, and there is often real confusion as to who should be where. Thoughts? For the record I use the left lane for the first two exits.
Cheers all
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Looking at this view I can see why some would use lane two for the second exit if there is a straight ahead arrow on the road.
If the change is causing problems write to the local highways authority & discuss the issue with them; maybe clearer signage or road markings are needed?
Some were changed near me and two years later there are still those going round on auto-pilot in which ever lane they feel like!
Looking at this view I can see why some would use lane two for the second exit if there is a straight ahead arrow on the road.
If the change is causing problems write to the local highways authority & discuss the issue with them; maybe clearer signage or road markings are needed?
Some were changed near me and two years later there are still those going round on auto-pilot in which ever lane they feel like!
Extra 300 Driver said:
So, if a lane is signed with a left arrow only, should that lane be used for the first exit only?
Someone else will give you a definitive answer; but unless everyone you share the roundabout with gets the same definitive answer, I'm not sure how useful it actually is.Lane markings for roundabouts should be read in conjunction with the approach signage:
In this case there are five exits from the roundabout (plus the sixth, which we're approaching from).
The first exit left is just indicated as a stub on the approach sign, which means its just a minor road.
The second exit left is the first major exit, and on the sign, it's at approximately ten o'clock. Anything to the left of twelve/six o'clock would normally be considered a left turn, so the combination of the sign and a left turn arrow would indicate to me that the correct approach lane for this roundabout if you intend to take the first or second exit would be the left lane.
The third, fourth and fifth exits would require an approach in the right hand lane.
In this case there are five exits from the roundabout (plus the sixth, which we're approaching from).
The first exit left is just indicated as a stub on the approach sign, which means its just a minor road.
The second exit left is the first major exit, and on the sign, it's at approximately ten o'clock. Anything to the left of twelve/six o'clock would normally be considered a left turn, so the combination of the sign and a left turn arrow would indicate to me that the correct approach lane for this roundabout if you intend to take the first or second exit would be the left lane.
The third, fourth and fifth exits would require an approach in the right hand lane.
Its probably been done to ease the traffic, during busy periods the traffic backs up along the slip road from the A12, by making it obvious which lane to be in the traffic should now be spread across both lanes, the left lane taking the traffic heading to the Royal Mail sorting office and the traffic heading into Chelmsford in the right hand lane.
I myself have been guilty of bypassing all the sitting traffic, using the empty right hand lane and booting it onto the roundabout, then taking the Chelmsford exit and filtering into the single lane. This road layout should stop people from doing that now.
I myself have been guilty of bypassing all the sitting traffic, using the empty right hand lane and booting it onto the roundabout, then taking the Chelmsford exit and filtering into the single lane. This road layout should stop people from doing that now.
R_U_LOCAL said:
Lane markings for roundabouts should be read in conjunction with the approach signage:
In this case there are five exits from the roundabout (plus the sixth, which we're approaching from).
The first exit left is just indicated as a stub on the approach sign, which means its just a minor road.
The second exit left is the first major exit, and on the sign, it's at approximately ten o'clock. Anything to the left of twelve/six o'clock would normally be considered a left turn, so the combination of the sign and a left turn arrow would indicate to me that the correct approach lane for this roundabout if you intend to take the first or second exit would be the left lane.
The third, fourth and fifth exits would require an approach in the right hand lane.
Thats not how I'd read it. We have a left and a straight on, I'd take that to be first left and the straight on for all other traffic. If we want to imply a clock type rule then the straight on should be straight on plus right arrow because there's nothing about straight on to imply right. I think this type of lane marking is awful, life seems so much easier when they stick the road number on the road and signage to avoid doubt.In this case there are five exits from the roundabout (plus the sixth, which we're approaching from).
The first exit left is just indicated as a stub on the approach sign, which means its just a minor road.
The second exit left is the first major exit, and on the sign, it's at approximately ten o'clock. Anything to the left of twelve/six o'clock would normally be considered a left turn, so the combination of the sign and a left turn arrow would indicate to me that the correct approach lane for this roundabout if you intend to take the first or second exit would be the left lane.
The third, fourth and fifth exits would require an approach in the right hand lane.
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