Kitchen design help.
Discussion
Hoping someone can offer some advice on a redesign of our kitchen.
It's quite small, but a funny shape with minimal storage as it has boiler, washing machine and fridge freezer packed in.
We originally looked to extend out as we have a triangular section of land about 3m long and 2 wide, to the side, but looking at it, for the cost, we would be not that much better off.
This is the plan and an image of a show home kitchen:
We need more storage and worktop space, would also like a place to sit and eat, but given the size, the tiny table we have is probably all we will manage.
Would love to have it as a more social place we could all sit and eat.
Or would we be better knocking through into the lounge, and have a smaller lounge, but kitchen diner being bigger?
It's quite small, but a funny shape with minimal storage as it has boiler, washing machine and fridge freezer packed in.
We originally looked to extend out as we have a triangular section of land about 3m long and 2 wide, to the side, but looking at it, for the cost, we would be not that much better off.
This is the plan and an image of a show home kitchen:
We need more storage and worktop space, would also like a place to sit and eat, but given the size, the tiny table we have is probably all we will manage.
Would love to have it as a more social place we could all sit and eat.
Or would we be better knocking through into the lounge, and have a smaller lounge, but kitchen diner being bigger?
Looks like the house style you've bought has a smallish kitchen and a largeish lounge/diner, is that correct? What are the dimensions you are working with?
From those plans above, it seems you could knock down the internal wall and make it a kitchen/diner with separate lounge, if that's the way you wanted to go.
From those plans above, it seems you could knock down the internal wall and make it a kitchen/diner with separate lounge, if that's the way you wanted to go.
op said:
Or would we be better knocking through into the lounge, and have a smaller lounge, but kitchen diner being bigger?
Looks that way, or as the kitchen appears to be at the front of the house, could just swap rooms around if you can fit your sofas into existing kitchen and it not be too small.Edited by Yazar on Saturday 28th February 01:00
KTF said:
Work in progress layout:
Whats with all the kitchens at the front with you lot??I'd go for a smaller living room as you don't do much but sit there, and can listen to the tv in peace rather than over the sound of kids playing in the garden. Kitchen floor is also more dirt friendly to trips in and out of garden.
We spend more time sitting down than we do in the kitchen and prefer to look into the garden than the road at the front whilst doing this 
I did consider changing the layout about but as All the services and the boiler are in the kitchen, if I were to swap the kitchen for the lounge, the cost and upheaval of moving that all about would add a lot to the total.
I did consider changing the layout about but as All the services and the boiler are in the kitchen, if I were to swap the kitchen for the lounge, the cost and upheaval of moving that all about would add a lot to the total.
Am not so keen on that as then you get the smells and noise from the kitchen filling the whole downstairs with no way of sealing it off.
There was another build thread on here where someone with a very similar layout had done just that so will be interesting so see what it looks like when its finished.
There was another build thread on here where someone with a very similar layout had done just that so will be interesting so see what it looks like when its finished.
rufmeister said:
singlecoil said:
Could you put some dimensions on that plan? I might be able to come up with some ideas.
Kitchen 2.5m x 3.7m (inc bay window)Lounge 4.5m x 5m (not taking out the stair cupboard)
Also is the fridge freezer a tall one, and is it the object next to the sink behind the kitchen door?
Where is the boiler? Is that the washing machine under the draining board? I presume there is no dish washer?
Free-standing cooker or hob and oven?
Can a cooker hood be piped outside?
Is there a boxed in waste pipe to allow for?
Have you decided whether to knock through to the lounge yet, and if you do, how much extra space will you allow the kitchen area?
One good way to maximise storage space is to have units with large drawers. Also wide drawer units aren't restricted to the 600mm width that units with doors are, so may well mean less units in total.
What style of kitchen are you looking for?
singlecoil said:
Was hoping for more detail on the measurements. Including the bay window isn't much help if the bay window isn't available as kitchen unit space. Always useful when doing a design to know the ceiling height, and the heights of the window sills.
Also is the fridge freezer a tall one, and is it the object next to the sink behind the kitchen door?
Where is the boiler? Is that the washing machine under the draining board? I presume there is no dish washer?
Free-standing cooker or hob and oven?
Can a cooker hood be piped outside?
Is there a boxed in waste pipe to allow for?
Have you decided whether to knock through to the lounge yet, and if you do, how much extra space will you allow the kitchen area?
One good way to maximise storage space is to have units with large drawers. Also wide drawer units aren't restricted to the 600mm width that units with doors are, so may well mean less units in total.
What style of kitchen are you looking for?
Oops, didn't realise you actually we're looking at designing one! Also is the fridge freezer a tall one, and is it the object next to the sink behind the kitchen door?
Where is the boiler? Is that the washing machine under the draining board? I presume there is no dish washer?
Free-standing cooker or hob and oven?
Can a cooker hood be piped outside?
Is there a boxed in waste pipe to allow for?
Have you decided whether to knock through to the lounge yet, and if you do, how much extra space will you allow the kitchen area?
One good way to maximise storage space is to have units with large drawers. Also wide drawer units aren't restricted to the 600mm width that units with doors are, so may well mean less units in total.
What style of kitchen are you looking for?
I will look at it in more detail, and get back to you.
Cheers.
rufmeister said:
Oops, didn't realise you actually were looking at designing one!
Well I wouldn't necessarily be doing that, but small kitchens are very demanding, far more so that large ones, and in order to be able to make useful suggestions about layouts, one first of all needs to know what the fixed elements are (hence the questions I asked), then the process becomes one of working out what can be done with the remaining space.I am so accustomed to the CAD software I use that it's actually faster for me to draw the kitchen to scale than to do sums with a calculator to work out what units can go where. It's just like actually building it, only in the computer where dimensions can be easily changed if things don't fit.
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