Digital 'Make A Plea' system
Discussion
do i take it the idea is you can accept a fixed penalty online?
what are their mitigations against someone making a plea on someone else's behalf, i can't realistically see any system where they can mail things out and be sure that the on-line process was not completed by someone else at the property, particularly a close family member
what are their mitigations against someone making a plea on someone else's behalf, i can't realistically see any system where they can mail things out and be sure that the on-line process was not completed by someone else at the property, particularly a close family member
Mr Happy said:
The sad fact is as the state seeks to criminalise most of the public going about their daily business, respect for the authorities drops constantly.. You will get all the usual suspects of SPL crowing about well don't speed then, but it does make you wonder why so much time & effort is put into enforcing a trivial matter when resources could be better spent in areas to actually improve road safety?RWD cossie wil said:
Mr Happy said:
The sad fact is as the state seeks to criminalise most of the public going about their daily business, respect for the authorities drops constantly.. You will get all the usual suspects of SPL crowing about well don't speed then, but it does make you wonder why so much time & effort is put into enforcing a trivial matter when resources could be better spent in areas to actually improve road safety?Why bother spending money on improving road safety when they can achieve the same result by criminalising people who transgress? The threat of being seen as "a criminal" is still enough to stop most normal people transgressing, however inane the law that is broken.
Unfortunately it is a win/win situation for the powers that be - they achieve their road safety targets by a large percentage of people simply following the rules, and keep the coffers full thanks to the fines of the transgressors that don't.
There will be a tipping point, but as always in this country - it is so far away in the distance that the gravy train will keep rolling on regardless. If something negative happens or a more draconian curtailing of freedoms takes place, we tend to mutter and grumble for a bit, then just get on with it - such is the British way.
This made for a good listen last week I thought:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02kbhnp
It was about the riots and race issues in St Louis. St Louis is divided up into 90 different little municipal areas that all see driving infractions as a way of raising revenue.
Isn't that what's happened to speeding fines in the UK? The moves to make speeding as socially unacceptable as drink driving is all part of us getting to see the fines as being valid. Because after all if you can't do the crime, don't do the time. Though if you're a police sergeant caught having sex in public you can just plead guilty to Misconduct and get sacked, whereas any normal person getting caught having sex in public could face a charge of outraging public decency and having their name mentioned in court.
Plus where does TISOL EU wide anti-speeding week fit in?
It's all just part of getting us to see exceeding a posted limit as some terrible crime that deserves to see our wallets taking a battering.
'End of the War Against the Motorist' said Wavy Dave not so long ago.
Meh. Not my values.
Why can't they NUDGE people to improve their driving by encouraging them to take the IAM or RoSPA tests.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02kbhnp
It was about the riots and race issues in St Louis. St Louis is divided up into 90 different little municipal areas that all see driving infractions as a way of raising revenue.
Isn't that what's happened to speeding fines in the UK? The moves to make speeding as socially unacceptable as drink driving is all part of us getting to see the fines as being valid. Because after all if you can't do the crime, don't do the time. Though if you're a police sergeant caught having sex in public you can just plead guilty to Misconduct and get sacked, whereas any normal person getting caught having sex in public could face a charge of outraging public decency and having their name mentioned in court.
Plus where does TISOL EU wide anti-speeding week fit in?
It's all just part of getting us to see exceeding a posted limit as some terrible crime that deserves to see our wallets taking a battering.
'End of the War Against the Motorist' said Wavy Dave not so long ago.
Meh. Not my values.
Why can't they NUDGE people to improve their driving by encouraging them to take the IAM or RoSPA tests.
carinaman said:
Why can't they NUDGE people to improve their driving by encouraging them to take the IAM or RoSPA tests.
As last poster said "they won't". Not because thy can't, or is it ,because if folk went down te IAM/ROSPA route, Messrs SCP would loose out on all that lovely cash which keeps the empire from collapsing and the retirement home for forcibly early retired traffic bods to go into the red. Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff