Working with out days off
Discussion
I have had an interview this week, for a six month contract job. That will be five days a week, 9 to 5, office based and mainly on the telephone. Now at the interview it was made plain that there would not be any days off, the pay rate will be £7.50 per hour.
Having not worked in the last six months ( previous was 15 months on min wage ) and being on the wrong side of 50. I am inclined to take it, at least I'll be working again.
Any thoughts on this would be appreciated.
Having not worked in the last six months ( previous was 15 months on min wage ) and being on the wrong side of 50. I am inclined to take it, at least I'll be working again.
Any thoughts on this would be appreciated.
Are you going to be an employee or a contractor?
If you're going to be an employee, then I'd say they are sailing a bit close to the wind. Companies can dictate when you can take holiday abut not sure they can't stop you taking any at all. But then again, if you're happy to do it and they are definitely going to pay you for the holiday due at the end, then maybe you can live with it. Just better hope you don't need a day off for any reason.
If you're a contractor, then it's fair enough. If you want a day off you have the option of hiring a replacement.
If you're going to be an employee, then I'd say they are sailing a bit close to the wind. Companies can dictate when you can take holiday abut not sure they can't stop you taking any at all. But then again, if you're happy to do it and they are definitely going to pay you for the holiday due at the end, then maybe you can live with it. Just better hope you don't need a day off for any reason.
If you're a contractor, then it's fair enough. If you want a day off you have the option of hiring a replacement.
I did this a couple of years back. Same situation, just coming out of unemployment and worked as a temp for 6 months. It was in the student industry and summer was the busy period so they needed us to work Mon-Fri without annual leave. All part and parcel. I had a few days off here and there, paid and unpaid, then I received the holiday entitlement after (I actually stuck around and got a full time contract somewhere else in the company).
A reasonable company will let you have time off, but the main premise is to work your arse off for the time you are there as you are needed for the full duration.
A reasonable company will let you have time off, but the main premise is to work your arse off for the time you are there as you are needed for the full duration.
Just one query - is there holiday entitlement / pay at the end of the six month period ? Or does the rate of pay include an allowance for holiday pay paid on an ongoing basis - so you won't get anything extra at the end. Seen that used before with temps / casuals - then it ensures they get their holiday pay entitlement as part of their pay.
Just check the small print - I wouldn't want you getting a shock after six months when you expect holiday pay only to find you have already had it and £7.50 per hour wasn't all it seemed.
Just check the small print - I wouldn't want you getting a shock after six months when you expect holiday pay only to find you have already had it and £7.50 per hour wasn't all it seemed.
king grip OP .
boyse7en said:
Mon-Fri 9-5 sounds pretty good to me.
Those are my contracted hours. So far, in 7 years, I have never taken all my holiday days in a year. Just finished doing 19 days straight without a day off.
That's just dumb - you're entitled to them, you'll lose a large percentage of them if not taken, and it's encouraged (in my place anyway) that you make good use of them. They dont want to to burn out, to not enjoy yourself, to have time away from work spent with friends and family. Those are my contracted hours. So far, in 7 years, I have never taken all my holiday days in a year. Just finished doing 19 days straight without a day off.
It's never been a consideration in the promotion stakes where bosses have said 'that guy takes no holidays, let's promote him'. Sometimes you can be too company
andy-xr said:
That's just dumb - you're entitled to them, you'll lose a large percentage of them if not taken, and it's encouraged (in my place anyway) that you make good use of them. They dont want to to burn out, to not enjoy yourself, to have time away from work spent with friends and family.
It's never been a consideration in the promotion stakes where bosses have said 'that guy takes no holidays, let's promote him'. Sometimes you can be too company
Sometimes there is a requirement to work weekends. It happens. Also sometimes it isn't opportune to use all your annual leave (I always seemed to carry a bit over when I had the option). However now it is use it or lose it, I bloody well use it! It's never been a consideration in the promotion stakes where bosses have said 'that guy takes no holidays, let's promote him'. Sometimes you can be too company
I have noticed in some walks of life the 'I work x consecutive days', 'I don't ever take all my annual leave' (always said in a sort of scoff so to deride anyone who does) is all part of being a 'big man' apparently - just IMHO.
Edited by Vocal Minority on Tuesday 3rd March 17:21
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