14yr old car, FSH.... 10th owner - would you?
Discussion
lord trumpton said:
Well if its a short term car you will struggle to move it on yourself
10 owners - sounds like a slag car to me
Why?10 owners - sounds like a slag car to me
Its old.
It's an early car so someone possibly bought it brand new because it was 'The latest thing' they probably ran it for a while & then as others have said, sold it at little or no loss & moved on. It is also a bit of a lifestyle car & as such would be rendered useless by the arrival of a baby or large dog. In our case we needed to get rid of a Discovery a few years ago, 5 months after purchase, due to MiL coming to live with us & being unable to hoist herself up into it!
It is an early version, weren't they a bit skittish before the addition of a spoiler? Someone owned it went sideways s
t themselves & moved it on. It rides hard, it's an Audi, owners didn't like that so sold it. Endless reasons as to why.As I said in my first post. Buy on condition/gut feeling there is a lot of history with it apparently & a bunch of owners with history is no worse than 1 owner no history surely.
JimmyConwayNW said:
It's a TT the sort of car people change regularly as circumstances change. The owners wouldn't put me off if the rest is right.
Couldn't agree more.A good mate who is a car dealer says that this sort of novelty or quite sporty car tends to get passed on every year or so as peoples tastes and interests change.
A piece of paper is a piece of paper, we're supposed to be car enthusiasts and able to spot a good condition car. A piece of paper with less owners on it is designed as a comfort blanket for those who can't tell a good car from a bad one other than what the V5 says on it
Cheers,
Steven_RW
If you are serious about getting one, I would get the cambelt and water pump changed and then you are looking at £300 for this to be done. Does this make the price still reasonable? Then has it had a clutch? I've had two 1.8T engine cars and they have both needed clutch and dual mass flywheel around the 100k mark, this is not cheap. Being A TT it will also have the clutch slave cylinder inside the gearbox, definitely worth doing if the box comes off. Looking at £600 plus for this to be done. Cheap cars are cheap for a reason as someone doesn't want the cost of doing this work. Next one is tyres are they pairs between the axles? Could cause extra wear to to the haldex 4wd system. Does this also need a service?
Sorry but cars from this age do need maintenance and quite a lot, yes you could get one and not carry out this work and take your chances, and it maybe fine, or it may cost you far more than the purchase cost in upkeep and repairs.
Agree with the Focus point, on a similar vein I bought a mk4 astra 2.2 SRI for the grand total of £950 it had 60k miles on it. Drove it for 50k miles with no problems even if it wasn't the best looker or to drive it was a god car for the 2 years I had it.
Sorry but cars from this age do need maintenance and quite a lot, yes you could get one and not carry out this work and take your chances, and it maybe fine, or it may cost you far more than the purchase cost in upkeep and repairs.
Agree with the Focus point, on a similar vein I bought a mk4 astra 2.2 SRI for the grand total of £950 it had 60k miles on it. Drove it for 50k miles with no problems even if it wasn't the best looker or to drive it was a god car for the 2 years I had it.
The OP original question is "Would you?"
My answer: "No" - you will probably have trouble trying to sell it on to the 11th owner come end of the year, and I would say at least 30% of the previous owners would have given the TT a thorough drive.
My two pence worth, buy a 1 - 3 owner Volvo 850, top end of the spectrum is about £1300, and that is for a minter! No issues, probably some elder gentleman (not being ageist!) who has looked after it very well and kept records in tact, easy to work on if you are mechanically inclined, and can be tuned relatively easily (again if you are that way inclined).
Plus cheaper insurance (and probably road tax). And not many electrical gremlins.
My answer: "No" - you will probably have trouble trying to sell it on to the 11th owner come end of the year, and I would say at least 30% of the previous owners would have given the TT a thorough drive.
My two pence worth, buy a 1 - 3 owner Volvo 850, top end of the spectrum is about £1300, and that is for a minter! No issues, probably some elder gentleman (not being ageist!) who has looked after it very well and kept records in tact, easy to work on if you are mechanically inclined, and can be tuned relatively easily (again if you are that way inclined).
Plus cheaper insurance (and probably road tax). And not many electrical gremlins.
Stu247 said:
Full history still available after 9 owners, now that's rare!!
Indeed - the statistical chances of that happening on a "conventional, mass produced" car must be infinitesimal. OK if it was a Lambo or something, but not a 10 year old TT. I'll show my arse if the mileage is genuine too.
Jim AK said:
lord trumpton said:
Well if its a short term car you will struggle to move it on yourself
10 owners - sounds like a slag car to me
Why?10 owners - sounds like a slag car to me
Its old.
It's an early car so someone possibly bought it brand new because it was 'The latest thing' they probably ran it for a while & then as others have said, sold it at little or no loss & moved on. It is also a bit of a lifestyle car & as such would be rendered useless by the arrival of a baby or large dog. In our case we needed to get rid of a Discovery a few years ago, 5 months after purchase, due to MiL coming to live with us & being unable to hoist herself up into it!
It is an early version, weren't they a bit skittish before the addition of a spoiler? Someone owned it went sideways s
t themselves & moved it on. It rides hard, it's an Audi, owners didn't like that so sold it. Endless reasons as to why.As I said in my first post. Buy on condition/gut feeling there is a lot of history with it apparently & a bunch of owners with history is no worse than 1 owner no history surely.
It will be a right s
tter. Guaranteed Jim AK said:
lord trumpton said:
Well if its a short term car you will struggle to move it on yourself
10 owners - sounds like a slag car to me
Why?10 owners - sounds like a slag car to me
Its old.
It's an early car so someone possibly bought it brand new because it was 'The latest thing' they probably ran it for a while & then as others have said, sold it at little or no loss & moved on. It is also a bit of a lifestyle car & as such would be rendered useless by the arrival of a baby or large dog. In our case we needed to get rid of a Discovery a few years ago, 5 months after purchase, due to MiL coming to live with us & being unable to hoist herself up into it!
It is an early version, weren't they a bit skittish before the addition of a spoiler? Someone owned it went sideways s
t themselves & moved it on. It rides hard, it's an Audi, owners didn't like that so sold it. Endless reasons as to why.As I said in my first post. Buy on condition/gut feeling there is a lot of history with it apparently & a bunch of owners with history is no worse than 1 owner no history surely.
As I say to lots of people when whittling on about the amount of owners on cars, are you looking to marry it or drive it? If you're happy with the amount of owners it means there will be another guy in a years time that will be happy with the amount of owners. It's just a piece of paper that means bugger all. Fast cars change hands regularly, for a multitude of reasons. Mainly money.
lord trumpton said:
Whilst all that is possible/feasible its more likely to be a hound of a car that has been passed from one owner to another because of some serious faults or hidden problems.
It will be a right stter. Guaranteed
Not sure how you can guarantee it unless you are the 9th & current owner.It will be a right s
tter. Guaranteed Jim AK said:
lord trumpton said:
Whilst all that is possible/feasible its more likely to be a hound of a car that has been passed from one owner to another because of some serious faults or hidden problems.
It will be a right stter. Guaranteed
Not sure how you can guarantee it unless you are the 9th & current owner.It will be a right s
tter. Guaranteed Sump said:
You don't need to be part of the last gangbang to know that if a bird has partaken in one then she will have a wizards sleeve.
Sorry. I didn't realise PH is now only for people who have a lease car, white obviously, or a a powerfully built director type that has just taken delivery of a new 335i.Obviously you, Trumpton & a few others don't realise it's possible to find people that can repair faults on a car.
Look, we are talking about probability here.
OK there may well be a chance that all 9 owners have loved it for the short time they have owned it and that everything is spot on with the car. This is the same sort of probability that you can close your eyes and run across a main road and not get hit by a car.
If our OP wants a short term car (i.e., reliable, cheap and easy to move on after his need has gone) then by the sounds of things, this is not the right car for him.
My feeling is that the car will turn out to be a real wallet opener.
If it were an old 993 then hell yeah, buy it, fix it, love it etc etc, but for an old tarts car that's had it's head kicked in and had more owners than MG Rover it's definitely one to swerve.
OK there may well be a chance that all 9 owners have loved it for the short time they have owned it and that everything is spot on with the car. This is the same sort of probability that you can close your eyes and run across a main road and not get hit by a car.
If our OP wants a short term car (i.e., reliable, cheap and easy to move on after his need has gone) then by the sounds of things, this is not the right car for him.
My feeling is that the car will turn out to be a real wallet opener.
If it were an old 993 then hell yeah, buy it, fix it, love it etc etc, but for an old tarts car that's had it's head kicked in and had more owners than MG Rover it's definitely one to swerve.
Dont see a problem. when I got my 2 and a half year old car i was the 5th owner. nearly 5 years on its still going very strong and apart from brakes, tyres and drop links nothings ever went wrong or needed doing (awaits the obvious massive failure upon my next trip now)
I wouldnt buy it on the fact it needs cambelt. What else has been ignored if something as important as that hasnt been changed?
I wouldnt buy it on the fact it needs cambelt. What else has been ignored if something as important as that hasnt been changed?
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