RE: Porsche - Geneva 2015

RE: Porsche - Geneva 2015

Tuesday 3rd March 2015

Porsche - Geneva 2015

GT3 RS officially unveiled; 500hp, Turbo body, 7min 20sec 'ring lap and a really, really big wing



It takes some chutzpah to make the Cayman GT4 the least interesting car on your stand but when Porsche reveals a new GT3 RS it tends to put most things in the shade. Especially beneath the most outrageous fixed wing ever fitted to a roadgoing Porsche.

Cayman GT4 barely mentioned!
Cayman GT4 barely mentioned!
In front of Piech (Hon.-Prof. Dr. techn. h.c. and Mrs), Winterkorn and other VW group bigwigs Porsche boss Matthias Muller revealed the car we've all been waiting for. Headlines? 500hp from a normally aspirated 4.0-litre flat-six and 339lb ft of torque - up from 3.8 litres, 475hp and 325lb ft in the standard GT3.

Although weight saving is a big story - including a magnesium roof, carbon front lid and engine cover and more - the RS only weighs 10kg less than the 1,430kg GT3. Bear in mind it uses the bigger Turbo body though.

The upshot of this is wider track front and rear, plus the additional aero provided by the enormous biplane rear wing and further improved by those distinctive vents in the front bodywork. These reduce pressure in the arches and improve downforce on the front axle. All this adds up to a Nordschleife lap time of 7min 20sec, seven seconds faster than the last RS, the 997 4.0.

Wing big enough for you?
Wing big enough for you?
Anyone hoping for a stripped back spec compared with the GT3 will be disappointed too - there's no manual gearbox or 'purist' option of deleting the four-wheel steering. Both are carried over into the RS.

Under the show lights the vivid orange of the launch car looks a little insipid - going by the accompanying video where it stamps its authority on the Cayman it's anything but out in the real world, though die-hard RS fans may bemoan the lack of 'distinctive' graphics as worn by previous examples. The rest of us probably won't though. And by any measure it's a fabulous looking thing, utterly unapologetic and suitably intimidating from every angle. For full track credentials the familiar Clubsport package of cage, battery kill switch and harnesses is available, the more new-school Porsche Track Precision app available with the Sport Chrono upgrade. Leaving the only possible weak spot in the package as ... you.

Anyway. How much? The German market price is quoted at 181,690 euros (the GT3 is/was 137,303 euros in its home market) with deliveries starting in May. Going by the bunfight for Cayman GT4s if you haven't got your foot in the door here you're probably already too late.

Porsche 911 GT3 RS promo vid





   



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dufflecoat

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Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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Asterix

24,438 posts

227 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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7 seconds faster than the previous RS over a distance of 28km.

Ummm, Wooooooooo!

Axionknight

8,505 posts

134 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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Cayman GT4 barely mentioned, but it's the one I'm interested in, tbh!

Axionknight

8,505 posts

134 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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Cayman GT4 barely mentioned, but it's the one I'm interested in, tbh!

Claudia Skies

1,098 posts

115 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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"there's no manual gearbox or 'purist' option"

Presumably because that sort of talk comes from people who spend a lot of time clicking on their keyboards but spend very little money in Mr Porsche's showrooms!!

numtumfutunch

4,704 posts

137 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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Presumably all sold out weeeeell in advance to collectors and/or speculators

Out of interest how exactly do you get to be on the privileged list?

Guiseley

197 posts

168 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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So, those slots in the wheel arches - will they let stones through to attack the windscrren at speed - if so they might not catch on!

Might not be a true story, but that's my understanding of why the Sagaris vents were closed in production models.

Anyway, very tasty motor but I'll have the Cayman please smile

soad

32,829 posts

175 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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Why a Turbo body?! confused


mr pg

1,947 posts

204 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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Guiseley said:
So, those slots in the wheel arches - will they let stones through to attack the windscrren at speed - if so they might not catch on!

Might not be a true story, but that's my understanding of why the Sagaris vents were closed in production models.

Anyway, very tasty motor but I'll have the Cayman please smile
If they have any sense, they'll put some fine mesh in the wheel arch beneath the slots.

zeppelin101

724 posts

191 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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Guiseley said:
So, those slots in the wheel arches - will they let stones through to attack the windscrren at speed - if so they might not catch on!

Might not be a true story, but that's my understanding of why the Sagaris vents were closed in production models.
That would need to be a very determined stone - the vents go to the outside of the body.

EricE

1,945 posts

128 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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Asterix said:
7 seconds faster than the previous RS over a distance of 28km.

Ummm, Wooooooooo!
Yes, assuming the previous RS runs on MPSC with the 13 year old tyre design and compound technology. wink


edit: i accidentally a word.

Edited by EricE on Tuesday 3rd March 15:47

sleep envy

62,260 posts

248 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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mr pg said:
Guiseley said:
So, those slots in the wheel arches - will they let stones through to attack the windscrren at speed - if so they might not catch on!

Might not be a true story, but that's my understanding of why the Sagaris vents were closed in production models.

Anyway, very tasty motor but I'll have the Cayman please smile
If they have any sense, they'll put some fine mesh in the wheel arch beneath the slots.
I hope it's not the same mesh they use behind the rads on the vanilla GT3 to 'protect' them from impact by debris being flung from the front tyres.

Despite a recall cars are still suffering holed rads.

Dan Trent

1,866 posts

167 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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Axionknight said:
Cayman GT4 barely mentioned, but it's the one I'm interested in, tbh!
Hi there,

Focused on the RS because that's the big one for the show reveal - nothing of note was announced ref. Cayman beyond what's already been said. See here! Saying that we're driving the Cayman next week so there WILL be more on that car very soon!

Cheers,

Dan

Charlie Michael

2,750 posts

183 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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Dan Trent said:
Hi there,

Focused on the RS because that's the big one for the show reveal - nothing of note was announced ref. Cayman beyond what's already been said. See here! Saying that we're driving the Cayman next week so there WILL be more on that car very soon!

Cheers,

Dan
When do you guys expect to have first drives of the new RS?

Wills2

22,668 posts

174 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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soad said:
Why a Turbo body?! confused
The 997.1 RS 997.2 RS and RS4.0 all used the widest body available as well, there are 3 widths available on the 991 the standard GT3 uses the middle one so the RS uses the widest.


Callughan

6,312 posts

191 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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Caught a glimpse on the factory tour a couple of weeks ago. It looks very aggressive and nicely differentiates from standard GT3cloud9

KaymunS

4 posts

109 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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Guiseley said:
So, those slots in the wheel arches - will they let stones through to attack the windscrren at speed - if so they might not catch on!

Might not be a true story, but that's my understanding of why the Sagaris vents were closed in production models.

Anyway, very tasty motor but I'll have the Cayman please smile
+1

Chris Stott

13,183 posts

196 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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What a bargain - RHD List price will be lower than the current market price for a 2nd hand regular GT3 laugh


soad

32,829 posts

175 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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Wills2 said:
soad said:
Why a Turbo body?! confused
The 997.1 RS 997.2 RS and RS4.0 all used the widest body available as well, there are 3 widths available on the 991 the standard GT3 uses the middle one so the RS uses the widest.
Cheers, I didn't realise that.


nicholasm

145 posts

184 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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Article said:
...going by the accompanying video where it stamps its authority on the Cayman...
This one?

http://youtu.be/V9Mzx6qcCTM