Alonso not racing in Australian GP

Alonso not racing in Australian GP

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London424

12,826 posts

174 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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That's quite a ballsy question...asking about a McLaren scoring points in Oz hehe

vinnie01

863 posts

118 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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didn't McLaren do this to JPM? an alleged shoulder injury midway through 2005 before being dismissed in 2006?

FourWheelDrift

88,375 posts

283 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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vinnie01 said:
didn't McLaren do this to JPM? an alleged shoulder injury midway through 2005 before being dismissed in 2006?
I think that was JPM not being fully transparent with the truth saying he fractured his shoulder falling onto a tennis ball and not falling off a motorbike.

andyps

7,817 posts

281 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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FourWheelDrift said:
I think that was JPM not being fully transparent with the truth saying he fractured his shoulder falling onto a tennis ball and not falling off a motorbike.
Didn't someone say he fell off his motorbike whilst playing tennis on it but as he was forbidden to ride a motorbike he missed that part out when telling Ron wink

thegreenhell

15,110 posts

218 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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aberdeeneuan said:
Anyone seen the article on SportBild? Essentially saying that some teams may not allow the drivers to run as it's not been proved that Alonso didn't get a shock which caused him to lose conciseness. Link to the translated article:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_QIRs1WoAAeD--.jpg:la...

Link: http://t.co/WGgavmP3Wk
If there was even a hint that he had received such an electric shock from the car do you think that McLaren would have then sent their other star driver, or anyone else, out in the same car on the following day? It's all just sensationalist BS to try to get page views in the absence of any real facts to report.

smithyithy

7,191 posts

117 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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andyps said:
Any drivers points go to that driver so if Magnussen scores points they will be his and he will feature in the championship list this year (I think he will even if he doesn't score any points, actually). The ones McLaren are more interested in are the constructors points and they will get those regardless of the driver, if they are in a points scoring position, of course.
Cheers for the explanation. Be good if KMag actually scores points without an 'official' drive this year!

andyps

7,817 posts

281 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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thegreenhell said:
If there was even a hint that he had received such an electric shock from the car do you think that McLaren would have then sent their other star driver, or anyone else, out in the same car on the following day? It's all just sensationalist BS to try to get page views in the absence of any real facts to report.
That was my thought - there is no way they would have continued testing if there was a potential issue with the car that they didn't fully understand in a way they could ensure it never happened again - the timescales involved didn't allow sufficient testing to ensure it was completely safe if it had proved not to be.

007 VXR

64,187 posts

186 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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thegreenhell said:
If there was even a hint that he had received such an electric shock from the car do you think that McLaren would have then sent their other star driver, or anyone else, out in the same car on the following day? It's all just sensationalist BS to try to get page views in the absence of any real facts to report.
This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
.... Do some realy belive the bs written

Lincsblokey

3,175 posts

154 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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thegreenhell said:
FourWheelDrift said:
Remember last year, when everyone had new engines to try and get working?

Total testing distances 2014 vs 2015
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9. McLaren, 380 laps - 1,751 km (ahead of Lotus, Marussia and Red Bull's 2014 mileage)
It's more illuminating if you look at engines rather than individual teams.

2014

Mercedes - 17994 km
Ferrari - 10214 km
Renault - 8743 km

2015

Mercedes - 18378 km
Ferrari - 11132 km
Renault - 9886 km
Honda - 1751 km
Not really, as thats the mileage count from all teams, with multiple teams per engine manufacturer.


thegreenhell

15,110 posts

218 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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The point was that the Honda engine has less than a quarter of the test miles on it than the worst of the others. It doesn't matter if McLaren as a team have more miles than another team, as the other engine suppliers have multiple teams to test for them and get data from. Honda have just one team and a fraction of the data acquired, and possibly only a fraction of the problems discovered so far.

gd49

302 posts

170 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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Woody said:
Is there anything to be read into the above statement?
Would tie up with the rumour that be got a shock from the car.

Or are they just referring to a general fitness test?
That part of the statement is strange - you wouldn't expect the concussion to have any effect on his heart, so why mention it in the statement? I would be very surprised if Alonso got a shock from the car, but could well believe he had some sort of dizziness or black out prior to the crash, which would explain an interest in his heart.

angrymoby

2,605 posts

177 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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gd49 said:
That part of the statement is strange - you wouldn't expect the concussion to have any effect on his heart, so why mention it in the statement? I would be very surprised if Alonso got a shock from the car, but could well believe he had some sort of dizziness or black out prior to the crash, which would explain an interest in his heart.
they're just ruling out any medical conditions as to why he went into the wall first place... i.e Hypoglycaemia, Arrhythmia, epilepsy & Carotid Sinus Hypersensitivity- which he's no doubt been tested for

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/31732315

andy-xr

13,204 posts

203 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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He's left already, hasnt he? Didnt even manage to start the season this time

carinaman

21,210 posts

171 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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A bit of James Hunt rubbed off on him from Kimi?

Alonso parked it in the wall.

ringerz

139 posts

225 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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My first thought on hearing all of this was that perhaps FA had a seizure of some sort and they then kept him in hospital for a few days in an attempt to ascertain what had happened. I know most have discounted the seizure theory as he was able to apply brake pressure – however, in my (very) limited experience having seen a friend experience an epileptic seizure, there has always been a tailing off in awareness / confusion prior to the actual seizure itself. Could he have started to lose consciousness, made a mistake, braked and then had the event? Purely irresponsible speculation from me there…

Of course Occam’s Razor and all that…he was probably just very unlucky in the way he banged his head in an relatively innocuous sounding accident and now needs to rest. Hope he’s alright and back for Sepang!

DS240

4,636 posts

217 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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Sky reports alonso thought it was 1995 after the accident, suffering concussion. Not racing due to risk of second hit on the head.

DanielSan

18,745 posts

166 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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Event wise he's not far wrong, Mclaren were starting 95 with a terrible new engine aswell... hehe

btcc123

1,243 posts

146 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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I think there is a lot more to Alonsos accident than we have been told.Vettel was following him and said it was wierd as he was going slow and only brushed the barrier then in a later statement said he was too far back to see what happened.The car looked as if it did not have a lot of damage and when you compare it to Massa and Perez accident in Canada where they both walked away something is very strange for Alonso to miss Australia.

One thing I dont get about the Honda engine is why did they have the oil seals go so often in testing surely the engine has been run on the dyno for many thousand kilometers so the seals should be fine for testing.

It did worry me when last year when the guy in charge of Honda racing was with the team principals at the Thursday press conference did not seam to have a clue what he was talking about.

bobbo89

5,151 posts

144 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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btcc123 said:
I think there is a lot more to Alonsos accident than we have been told.Vettel was following him and said it was wierd as he was going slow and only brushed the barrier then in a later statement said he was too far back to see what happened.The car looked as if it did not have a lot of damage and when you compare it to Massa and Perez accident in Canada where they both walked away something is very strange for Alonso to miss Australia.

One thing I dont get about the Honda engine is why did they have the oil seals go so often in testing surely the engine has been run on the dyno for many thousand kilometers so the seals should be fine for testing.

It did worry me when last year when the guy in charge of Honda racing was with the team principals at the Thursday press conference did not seam to have a clue what he was talking about.
He could have had a fit? Back in 2001 I had a fit with no medical explanation! Not had one since but I still had a fit! I was exhausted after a long haul flight but there was no medical reason for it. It was a a complete one off with no real explanation but it still happened! I was in a car when it happened too!

Some Gump

12,671 posts

185 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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Fits are mental. As a kid, I had 3 or 4 mini siezures (a bit like a stroke, I'd lose ability to function on 1 side of face / body - but i was 5 not 85).
no lasting effect at all, but I wasn't in an f1 car. Whatever he had, i hope he recovers.