Seriously. I understand why people trade in.
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9mm said:
Negative Creep said:
9mm said:
johnxjsc1985 said:
9mm said:
I can't understand why people have to get so personal about inanimate objects.
You do realise this forum is called Pistonheads 
tboxes or repmobiles, not exotic rare classics.Are you an example of the kind of member I was talking about or an exception?
mazm3 said:
Its payback for the sellers who describe cars as mint and get you to drive halfway across the country too see an absoulute heap.
I drove 300 miles once to view an M3 which the seller had used somebody elses photos to advertise it!! They werent even photos of the same car!! The only thing they had in common was the interior and exterior colour
Well quite. Another PH characteristic seems to be that of only selling keenly priced pukka cars. Keenly priced pukka cars sell quickly. Optimistically or laughably overpriced old tat doesn't. They do however attract low ball offers.I drove 300 miles once to view an M3 which the seller had used somebody elses photos to advertise it!! They werent even photos of the same car!! The only thing they had in common was the interior and exterior colour
Negative Creep said:
9mm said:
Negative Creep said:
9mm said:
johnxjsc1985 said:
9mm said:
I can't understand why people have to get so personal about inanimate objects.
You do realise this forum is called Pistonheads tboxes or repmobiles, not exotic rare classics.Are you an example of the kind of member I was talking about or an exception?
9mm said:
Negative Creep said:
9mm said:
Negative Creep said:
9mm said:
johnxjsc1985 said:
9mm said:
I can't understand why people have to get so personal about inanimate objects.
You do realise this forum is called Pistonheads tboxes or repmobiles, not exotic rare classics.Are you an example of the kind of member I was talking about or an exception?
Negative Creep said:
9mm said:
Negative Creep said:
9mm said:
Negative Creep said:
9mm said:
johnxjsc1985 said:
9mm said:
I can't understand why people have to get so personal about inanimate objects.
You do realise this forum is called Pistonheads tboxes or repmobiles, not exotic rare classics.Are you an example of the kind of member I was talking about or an exception?
Getting this thread back on topic. Every now and then there's a thread on here where someone asks for feedback about why their great car isn't selling. Every single time it's the price.
9mm said:
I am certainly aware that most members appear to drive stboxes or repmobiles, not exotic rare classics.
I'm afraid I don't drive a rare exotica, but then I'd argue that my choice of vehicles doesn't fit the stboxes or repmobiles, not exotic rare classics.tbox (as you so eloquently put it) or repmobile either so does that mean I get more of a say than Negative Creep but less than someone who owns something like a Pagani? 9mm said:
Negative Creep said:
9mm said:
Negative Creep said:
9mm said:
Negative Creep said:
9mm said:
johnxjsc1985 said:
9mm said:
I can't understand why people have to get so personal about inanimate objects.
You do realise this forum is called Pistonheads tboxes or repmobiles, not exotic rare classics.Are you an example of the kind of member I was talking about or an exception?
Getting this thread back on topic. Every now and then there's a thread on here where someone asks for feedback about why their great car isn't selling. Every single time it's the price.
irocfan said:
I'm afraid I don't drive a rare exotica, but then I'd argue that my choice of vehicles doesn't fit the stbox (as you so eloquently put it) or repmobile either so does that mean I get more of a say than Negative Creep but less than someone who owns something like a Pagani?
So where is the dividing line between being poor and having exotic classics.?tbox (as you so eloquently put it) or repmobile either so does that mean I get more of a say than Negative Creep but less than someone who owns something like a Pagani? Sometimes it works the other way. Way back in 1978, I spent ages scouring the country for an Immaculate Morgan Plus 8, at the time, the waiting list for a new one was around eight years, so I was looking around 3-5 years old.
Most examples in The Sunday times/Motor Sport were around London, (No internet or Auto Trader back then), so I selected about six for sale, and travelled 200 miles down South, with the intention of viewing them all.
The first house I called at in London was in an area, I would guess was full of student lets, hardly salubrious, there was a plus 8 parked outside that looked like it had been pulled from the canal, with rusty front wings... I rang the bell..
The guy came to the door, wearing vest and PG bottoms, I said "I've come about your Morgan", he pointed to the heap and said "That's it"..
I said "It was described as "Immaculate", it's covered in rust ffs!
He replied..."Oh, that's what's known as artificial surface rust".....
I did a quick about turn, muttering under my breath a few X rated words.......
What a tosser!
Fortunately, the fourth one I saw WAS mint, and I bought that, so my journey wasn't entirely wasted.
So vendors can be hard work too..........
Most examples in The Sunday times/Motor Sport were around London, (No internet or Auto Trader back then), so I selected about six for sale, and travelled 200 miles down South, with the intention of viewing them all.
The first house I called at in London was in an area, I would guess was full of student lets, hardly salubrious, there was a plus 8 parked outside that looked like it had been pulled from the canal, with rusty front wings... I rang the bell..
The guy came to the door, wearing vest and PG bottoms, I said "I've come about your Morgan", he pointed to the heap and said "That's it"..
I said "It was described as "Immaculate", it's covered in rust ffs!
He replied..."Oh, that's what's known as artificial surface rust".....
I did a quick about turn, muttering under my breath a few X rated words.......
What a tosser!
Fortunately, the fourth one I saw WAS mint, and I bought that, so my journey wasn't entirely wasted.
So vendors can be hard work too..........
BaronVonV8 said:
It drives me fking crackers. I sold my Impreza STi last year, and had to deal with some absolute turbo-mongs. The "whats your lowest price" brigade in particular. It's simple, do you have the money? If not, fk off. If so, come and view the car and there might be room to negotiate. My car was advertised at £8500, so why do people even bother asking if i'll knock £4.5k for off the price (CA$H in yer 'and bruv!). Then there's the picking holes in the car, you want a blue one, so why are you here wasting my time looking at my grey one? Some plebian casually informed me that it'll need new discs all round (discs that had been on the car for a month/2000 miles), so pretty much demanded a grand off. In the end I sold to a trader who was buying Subaru's and got £500 less than my asking price. Life's too short to deal with these people.
If I was a serial killer then I would probably select my prey by advertising on Autotrader. Anyone calling me bruv or offering half the asking price will be invited to view the car, lured into the garage and bludgeoned to death with a copy of Parkers.
I enjoyed this!king crackers. I sold my Impreza STi last year, and had to deal with some absolute turbo-mongs. The "whats your lowest price" brigade in particular. It's simple, do you have the money? If not, fk off. If so, come and view the car and there might be room to negotiate. My car was advertised at £8500, so why do people even bother asking if i'll knock £4.5k for off the price (CA$H in yer 'and bruv!). Then there's the picking holes in the car, you want a blue one, so why are you here wasting my time looking at my grey one? Some plebian casually informed me that it'll need new discs all round (discs that had been on the car for a month/2000 miles), so pretty much demanded a grand off. In the end I sold to a trader who was buying Subaru's and got £500 less than my asking price. Life's too short to deal with these people.If I was a serial killer then I would probably select my prey by advertising on Autotrader. Anyone calling me bruv or offering half the asking price will be invited to view the car, lured into the garage and bludgeoned to death with a copy of Parkers.
Negative Creep said:
9mm said:
Negative Creep said:
9mm said:
Negative Creep said:
9mm said:
Negative Creep said:
9mm said:
johnxjsc1985 said:
9mm said:
I can't understand why people have to get so personal about inanimate objects.
You do realise this forum is called Pistonheads tboxes or repmobiles, not exotic rare classics.Are you an example of the kind of member I was talking about or an exception?
Getting this thread back on topic. Every now and then there's a thread on here where someone asks for feedback about why their great car isn't selling. Every single time it's the price.
t attitude I do agree with 9mm in some ways. This is somewhere for people that like cars.in addition. poor does not mean you need crap cars. There are awesome £2000 cars, £1000 cars and £500 cars.
On the other hand there are absolutely shocking £20k, £30k and £50k cars.
Then again PH has become a bit full of badge snobs, concourse polishers and must-better-the-joneses people.
irocfan said:
9mm said:
I am certainly aware that most members appear to drive stboxes or repmobiles, not exotic rare classics.
I'm afraid I don't drive a rare exotica, but then I'd argue that my choice of vehicles doesn't fit the stboxes or repmobiles, not exotic rare classics.tbox (as you so eloquently put it) or repmobile either so does that mean I get more of a say than Negative Creep but less than someone who owns something like a Pagani? Efbe said:
despite the st attitude I do agree with 9mm in some ways. This is somewhere for people that like cars.
in addition. poor does not mean you need crap cars. There are awesome £2000 cars, £1000 cars and £500 cars.
On the other hand there are absolutely shocking £20k, £30k and £50k cars.
Then again PH has become a bit full of badge snobs, concourse polishers and must-better-the-joneses people.
I agree there are loads of interesting cheap cars out there as SOTW proves time and time again, but sometimes circumstances dictate we need something dull to get us around for a while. You can have fun driving anything, and some of the most memorable drives I've had have been in cars that would be the very antithesis of what a "real" petrolhead would drive. I'd wager someone who enjoys driving their £500 Fiesta around would make a better contribution to this site than someone who bought a £50k BMW because it makes them look important and no one on their street has the latest registration yett attitude I do agree with 9mm in some ways. This is somewhere for people that like cars.in addition. poor does not mean you need crap cars. There are awesome £2000 cars, £1000 cars and £500 cars.
On the other hand there are absolutely shocking £20k, £30k and £50k cars.
Then again PH has become a bit full of badge snobs, concourse polishers and must-better-the-joneses people.
I've got a 911SC posted for sale on Piston Heads right now- it's the first car I've ever tried to sell private and it's been thoroughly demoralising.
It's listed for £22,750- I've had blokes email would I accept 18k Er.......no. Random emails- what would I take for it?
I had one bloke ask for a fully detailed record of service history- where it was serviced, at what mileage and work done-
The car is 32 years old !!!!- I'd have to take a day off work......I'm not desperate to sell the car so I've got to the point I can hardly be bothered to respond to the tyre kickers...
It's listed for £22,750- I've had blokes email would I accept 18k Er.......no. Random emails- what would I take for it?
I had one bloke ask for a fully detailed record of service history- where it was serviced, at what mileage and work done-
The car is 32 years old !!!!- I'd have to take a day off work......I'm not desperate to sell the car so I've got to the point I can hardly be bothered to respond to the tyre kickers...
david hockney said:
I've got a 911SC posted for sale on Piston Heads right now- it's the first car I've ever tried to sell private and it's been thoroughly demoralising.
It's listed for £22,750- I've had blokes email would I accept 18k Er.......no. Random emails- what would I take for it?
I had one bloke ask for a fully detailed record of service history- where it was serviced, at what mileage and work done-
The car is 32 years old !!!!- I'd have to take a day off work......I'm not desperate to sell the car so I've got to the point I can hardly be bothered to respond to the tyre kickers...
Here's a handy tip when selling an old Porsche - don't agree to any viewings on a Sunday - they will never buy it !It's listed for £22,750- I've had blokes email would I accept 18k Er.......no. Random emails- what would I take for it?
I had one bloke ask for a fully detailed record of service history- where it was serviced, at what mileage and work done-
The car is 32 years old !!!!- I'd have to take a day off work......I'm not desperate to sell the car so I've got to the point I can hardly be bothered to respond to the tyre kickers...
Mahoolah said:
Recently sold a ropey old Mondeo on Ebay. 99p start , Buy it now of £800.
I had Endless inquiries as to "What I'd take for it" via ebay.
Eventually the auction ends an a charming man from Coventry with 1 feedback wins the car for £700. He calls me fairly promptly so i gave him the benefit of the doubt.
He turns up the same evening with his family in tow. Before even looking at the car his fat wife was doing an incredibly pungent log in the toilet ("I'm bustin' love can I use yer toilet").
Test drive goes well, he likes the car (its fairly well kept). Before shaking on the deal he insists on phoning his second cousin ("he used to work for Kwikfit yer know"). Second cousin manages to diagnose a fault with the flywheel down the phone in an incredibly poor mobile phone reception area very precisely (despite the extensive service history showing a flywheel replacement less than 10k ago), and advises the buyer to walk away.
This was annoying, and no amount of protesting about coming to see the car before bidding will make him change his mind, so I suck it up, get out the air freshener and move on.
Sold it on a relist for the same price to a nice man from Brentford who broke several laws on the test drive.
Original bid winner then left me negative feedback on ebay due to car not being "as advertised".
Should have asked her for her address so you could have a s hite at her house.I had Endless inquiries as to "What I'd take for it" via ebay.
Eventually the auction ends an a charming man from Coventry with 1 feedback wins the car for £700. He calls me fairly promptly so i gave him the benefit of the doubt.
He turns up the same evening with his family in tow. Before even looking at the car his fat wife was doing an incredibly pungent log in the toilet ("I'm bustin' love can I use yer toilet").
Test drive goes well, he likes the car (its fairly well kept). Before shaking on the deal he insists on phoning his second cousin ("he used to work for Kwikfit yer know"). Second cousin manages to diagnose a fault with the flywheel down the phone in an incredibly poor mobile phone reception area very precisely (despite the extensive service history showing a flywheel replacement less than 10k ago), and advises the buyer to walk away.
This was annoying, and no amount of protesting about coming to see the car before bidding will make him change his mind, so I suck it up, get out the air freshener and move on.
Sold it on a relist for the same price to a nice man from Brentford who broke several laws on the test drive.
Original bid winner then left me negative feedback on ebay due to car not being "as advertised".
When I was selling my S2K I had similar issues, for some reason I responded to one email from a Hong Kong email address, in poor english. I thought it was going to be some con, my uncle will send you the money etc... but he turned up, I couldn't take him for a test drive as I'd broken my elbow at the time, but he was happy, paid an overly large deposit, then came back and paid the full cash price, no haggling at all, great buyer.
Turned out he was an international student at the local uni.
Then I had to sell a Boxster for my mum, and that was a nightmare, no end of complete time wasters, especially one complete twonk from up North, took 3 hours to look at it, no test drive, told me more about his amazing son than asking about the car, argued with me about a lip on the brake discs, he knew all about it as he apparently built rally cars, shame I had an invoice for new discs not 5K miles ago. Finally we agreed on a price, over text later as I refused his stupid offers at the time, only for no deposit to ever materialise, even though he said he was on his way to the bank etc....
In the end sold it to a nice bloke off the south coast for more than we'd agreed with Northern monkey, I did enjoy letting him know it was now sold for more money.
Turned out he was an international student at the local uni.
Then I had to sell a Boxster for my mum, and that was a nightmare, no end of complete time wasters, especially one complete twonk from up North, took 3 hours to look at it, no test drive, told me more about his amazing son than asking about the car, argued with me about a lip on the brake discs, he knew all about it as he apparently built rally cars, shame I had an invoice for new discs not 5K miles ago. Finally we agreed on a price, over text later as I refused his stupid offers at the time, only for no deposit to ever materialise, even though he said he was on his way to the bank etc....
In the end sold it to a nice bloke off the south coast for more than we'd agreed with Northern monkey, I did enjoy letting him know it was now sold for more money.
It's all about holding out for the right buyer. It is only natural for people to barter with the price. I will soon be selling my old fiesta which ill advertise at £1250 but id accept £1000 for it. Always worthwhile adding a wee bit over what you actually want so that it gives the buyer confidence that they are lowering the price. We all do it. The potential buyer is always in the strongest position when looking at your car. I don't mind people coming and viewing the car even if in the end it isn't for them - at least i tried.
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