Is there a fun, petrol car that will do a genuine 40mpg?

Is there a fun, petrol car that will do a genuine 40mpg?

Author
Discussion

white_goodman

Original Poster:

4,042 posts

191 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
quotequote all
Does such a car exist? Most diesels should be able to get a real world 40 mpg and I guess something like a Golf TDI is not a bad steer but then driving a Golf GTI kind of puts that into perspective and apart from on a long motorway journey possibly, there`s no chance of getting 40mpg out of one of those, despite it being one of the more economical hot hatches.

So, have you driven anything that meets the following criteria?
Quick enough to be interesting (I guess over 100bhp would be a reasonable figure)
Manual gearbox
Less than 5 years old
Less than 30,000 pounds but ideally a lot less!
Preferably petrol (but maybe diesel if it`s as fun or more fun than the petrol equivalent)
A genuine real world 40mpg without trying too hard (but obviously not driving like you stole it either).

This:



or this possibly?


DanielSan

18,773 posts

167 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
quotequote all
A Lotus Elise should manage it when you're not driving hard.

Matt UK

17,687 posts

200 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
quotequote all
Our Mini Cooper S can do a genuine 40mpg and it can be fun - just not at the same time.

Caterham also.

bobbo89

5,199 posts

145 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
quotequote all
Whatever you do don't buy an R56 Cooper S, I had one and it was a world of trouble! Engines coke up, timing chain tensioners are made of cheese and my steering rack went! Seriously, just avoid them!

Tickle

4,906 posts

204 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
quotequote all
An Elise as said, mine does on the motorway even with the good old 'K'. Would a GT86 not manage that?

Matttracker

630 posts

147 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
quotequote all
I was looking at Cooper S' but all the review and forums suggest around a maximum of 27 mpg. Is this a new one? I was looking at pre 09

kambites

67,544 posts

221 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
quotequote all
As above, an Elise will do it.

I get about 45mpg on the motorway and about 35-40 cross-country, depending on how hard I'm driving. I actually average about 33mpg, but that's almost entirely on my four-mile commute so the car is barely getting up to temperature before I get to my destination (for comparison, the Octavia gives around 25mpg on a the same trip).

If you want to get decent economy while driving relatively hard, you need something light.


A Smart Roadster will be very hard to get under 40mpg whatever you do and is still quite fun. smile

Edited by kambites on Tuesday 3rd March 20:09

zainster

440 posts

176 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
quotequote all
bobbo89 said:
Whatever you do don't buy an R56 Cooper S, I had one and it was a world of trouble! Engines coke up, timing chain tensioners are made of cheese and my steering rack went! Seriously, just avoid them!
Complete opposite experience.

Been running an R56 Mini John Cooper Works for 16 months now and not a single issue at all. Great fun to drive, economical without having to try too hard either. Would always recommend them. All cars have their issues. Mine has been superb and I'm sure I'm in the majority.

bobbo89

5,199 posts

145 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
quotequote all
zainster said:
Complete opposite experience.

Been running an R56 Mini John Cooper Works for 16 months now and not a single issue at all. Great fun to drive, economical without having to try too hard either. Would always recommend them. All cars have their issues. Mine has been superb and I'm sure I'm in the majority.
Coking and timing chain issues are very well documented online. Walnut blasting can sort the coking but there's no definite cure for the timing chain tensioner, yet.

My steering rack issue seems to be a rare one but the the fix is pricey!

Also, JCW's may be different in all of these areas but I'm not that well up

kambites

67,544 posts

221 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
quotequote all
Do any of you guys with Cooper Ss actually average 40mpg or is it more a question of "it should be possible but no-one would ever actually do it"? It's very impressive if it can average 40 without trying.

Defcon5

6,178 posts

191 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
quotequote all
£30000 budget, but needs 40mpg?

Why not a 15k budget but accept 30mpg?

MattHall91

1,268 posts

124 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
quotequote all
I absolutely hammered the bks off a new Aygo for a fortnight (hire car) and could NOT get the average mpg below 42mpg.

I wouldn't say it was fun because it had no power, and I mean none. But it wasn't dull at all.

BlueJazz

504 posts

172 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
quotequote all
Fiesta Zetec S 140bhp?

Krikkit

26,513 posts

181 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
quotequote all
Defcon5 said:
£30000 budget, but needs 40mpg?

Why not a 15k budget but accept 30mpg?
Or a 5k budget and 20mpg? 10k buys a whole lot of fuel! biggrin

rossjohnstone

31 posts

126 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
quotequote all
My fiesta st turbo is currently getting 40.3 on my (admittedly fairly long motorway) commute without really trying.

xxChrisxx

538 posts

121 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
quotequote all
Swift Sport. Good fun, but you'll never get more than a dozen eggs in the boot.

sjg

7,451 posts

265 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
quotequote all
Honda CR-Z seems to do OK. Most owners seem to be hitting mid to high 40s mpg. http://www.fuelly.com/car/honda/cr-z

They've depreciated pretty hard - some under £6k, plenty to choose from under £8k. Never seemed to find much of a market here, but they make a lot more sense at those prices.

GTIAlex

1,935 posts

166 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
quotequote all


Just picked this up

Fiesta Zetec S 'Red/Black Edition'

1.0 turbo, claimed 65mpg, realistic 55mpg, 140bhp.

Only had it a few days but its a fantastic steer, engine is a little gem and a genuinely lovely place to sit.


GTIAlex

1,935 posts

166 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
quotequote all
rossjohnstone said:
My fiesta st turbo is currently getting 40.3 on my (admittedly fairly long motorway) commute without really trying.
You must be driving like a complete saint to achieve that. I know 3 people who have been running them since before xmas and they've never seen above 30mpg

Dunk130TC

328 posts

190 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
quotequote all
Averaging 38mpg with my manual BRZ and a couple less on winters.