F10 M5 £2.6K bill

F10 M5 £2.6K bill

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Schermerhorn

4,342 posts

189 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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Wills2 said:
I'm quite surprised to be honest I've had 4 M cars and one 911 and I've never been offered this option, in fact I'm flabbergasted that an OPC would do this, they always wanted to change my disks never skim them.

Which OPC skimmed your disks?

No one has skimmed my discs. Mine had new brake discs and pads all around when I bought it from supplying dealership.

However because I have been into Sandal Huddersfield's workshop I have physically seen their pro cut brake lathe. It is mostly used in AUC vehichle preperations from what I gathered.

Jonny TVR

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281 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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JCHill said:
I'm just about to hit 60,000 miles.

Original discs front and rear and still on the original pads on the front.

Recently had rear pads changed though (56,000 miles) with the vast majority of my journeys being motorway mileages.
You can't be on the original pads on the front surely at 60K miles!

crazy about cars

4,454 posts

169 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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Sounds like s major service plus discs to me. Not sure why pads have to be changed some time s discs though unless they both worn.

As a comparison new front discs and pads on my Q7 cost £1600 @ 30,000 miles at Audi including labour.

magnum555

473 posts

159 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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Jonny TVR said:
JCHill said:
I'm just about to hit 60,000 miles.

Original discs front and rear and still on the original pads on the front.

Recently had rear pads changed though (56,000 miles) with the vast majority of my journeys being motorway mileages.
You can't be on the original pads on the front surely at 60K miles!
rofl Sounds like he doesn't go over 3000rpm

HoHoHo

14,987 posts

250 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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Just another quick thought.

Just gone to the shops and my rear pads are saying 23000 miles until change and my front pads 24000 which will mean the car will have somewhere around 40,000 before only pads, not disks.

Either you've been taken for a very expensive ride or you live on your brakes - have you already had pads prior to this service?

Bearing in mind my car was apparently two years ahead of itself on the service computer which has since been reset, has yours been the same and they've followed the car rather than looking at real usage?

Jonny TVR

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4,534 posts

281 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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After further investigation.

It was a major service due which costs £900, this isn't just on mileage, it takes into account how it has been driven.
The discs were just below BMW's recommended level (this is to do with the mileage and my type of driving!)
and the pads well its again down to mileage and driving.

Westerley Exeter as a gesture of goodwill offered 10% discount on parts.

I think the bottom line is that its an expensive performance car and it has been driven fairly hard for the past 34K miles

HoHoHo

14,987 posts

250 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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Jonny TVR said:
After further investigation.

It was a major service due which costs £900, this isn't just on mileage, it takes into account how it has been driven.
The discs were just below BMW's recommended level (this is to do with the mileage and my type of driving!)
and the pads well its again down to mileage and driving.

Westerley Exeter as a gesture of goodwill offered 10% discount on parts.

I think the bottom line is that its an expensive performance car and it has been driven fairly hard for the past 34K miles
So their claim of disks every other sets of pads isn't true?

JCHill

159 posts

146 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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magnum555 said:
Jonny TVR said:
JCHill said:
I'm just about to hit 60,000 miles.

Original discs front and rear and still on the original pads on the front.

Recently had rear pads changed though (56,000 miles) with the vast majority of my journeys being motorway mileages.
You can't be on the original pads on the front surely at 60K miles!
rofl Sounds like he doesn't go over 3000rpm
I don't believe in using brakes... rofl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d7Dif3FH2w


Jonny TVR

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4,534 posts

281 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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HoHoHo said:
So their claim of disks every other sets of pads isn't true?
They measure them but generally they find its every other time they change the pads.

P13TR0

49 posts

114 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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Did you authorise the new pads and discs? Unless you have been living on the track, this doesn't add up. I could understand new pads, but it looks like they have pulled the "we need to replace the pads and discs at the same time" line. My local BMW dealer is notorious for this. I have also been told I need new control arm bushes after an inspection - they were a little embarrassed when I pointed out that they had only just changed them 3 months earlier under warranty.

It's a shame, but it seems like you can no longer trust the service departments at BMW. Either they are wilfully trying to extort money, or they have idiots inspecting the cars and making the recommendations - it's probably a bit of both!

Jonny TVR

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Thursday 5th March 2015
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JCHill said:
I don't believe in using brakes... rofl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d7Dif3FH2w
I can see that now!!

Jonny TVR

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Thursday 5th March 2015
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P13TR0 said:
Did you authorise the new pads and discs? Unless you have been living on the track, this doesn't add up. I could understand new pads, but it looks like they have pulled the "we need to replace the pads and discs at the same time" line. My local BMW dealer is notorious for this. I have also been told I need new control arm bushes after an inspection - they were a little embarrassed when I pointed out that they had only just changed them 3 months earlier under warranty.

It's a shame, but it seems like you can no longer trust the service departments at BMW. Either they are wilfully trying to extort money, or they have idiots inspecting the cars and making the recommendations - it's probably a bit of both!
Yes they did ask ..

May be I should drop down and have a look at the discs they took off.

Soov535

35,829 posts

271 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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You've been done.

HoHoHo

14,987 posts

250 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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Have to be honest Jonny and I'm not sure about this, it's got a whiff of he's got the dosh, earn some extra £'s off the man yes

JCHill

159 posts

146 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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Jonny TVR said:
JCHill said:
I don't believe in using brakes... rofl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d7Dif3FH2w
I can see that now!!
To be fair I do live a mile from the M1 and work a mile from the M1 (40 miles apart) so my daily brake usage is ridiculously light but I was surprised the rears needed replacing before the fronts...but I'm not complaining...and the dealership did warn me 6 months before that they were getting close so it wasn't a shock.

What surprises me about yours is disc replacement at that kind of mileage. Unless they originally fitted pads made of granite, or the discs were warped, I wouldn't expect disc replacement so soon.

xxChrisxx

538 posts

121 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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Schermerhorn said:
Braking skimming is a Porsche approved service. Most Porsche dealers have the device in the workshop. Even my local Sandal BMW have such a device, as do Stratstone Mercedes and the Toyota garages down the road. The technology has come on a long way since the 1980s. The latest Pro-Cut lathe measures a run out tolerance to 0.001mm meaning a near perfect flat surface.
: /

Not familiar with the system, and I'm being a pedant, but that doesn't seem right. It's probably 1 thou (0.001 in) which is 25 microns.

Jonny TVR

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281 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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Not sure what I can do now other than chalk it up to experience. The discs weren't warped they were worn. Remember skimming previous TVR discs due to warping but these were just worn. Will have to get down there to see them if they haven't already chucked them. Thing is I know the pads at the very least needed replacing as the computer was telling me that. So really its just down to whether the disc needed replacing at £1k.

HoHoHo

14,987 posts

250 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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Jonny TVR said:
Not sure what I can do now other than chalk it up to experience. The discs weren't warped they were worn. Remember skimming previous TVR discs due to warping but these were just worn. Will have to get down there to see them if they haven't already chucked them. Thing is I know the pads at the very least needed replacing as the computer was telling me that. So really its just down to whether the disc needed replacing at £1k.
Has to be worth a call, it's unlikely they're off site yet.

theboss

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219 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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crazy about cars said:
As a comparison new front discs and pads on my Q7 cost £1600 @ 30,000 miles at Audi including labour.
I just did the same for my X5 (E70 40d) at 40k miles and it was just under £800! I wonder how the components compare.

Jonny TVR

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Thursday 5th March 2015
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theboss said:
I just did the same for my X5 (E70 40d) at 40k miles and it was just under £800! I wonder how the components compare.
Looks about right then price wise.

That Q7 is more expensive than my M5's

Hohoho .. will do it