GT3 Over revs - AGAIN!
Discussion
Steve Rance said:
Fully understand Old Thing.
Cant blame a chap for being cautious. Just trying to add some perspective to the debate
Oh I agree with you and I don't think anybody reasonably expects the O.P's car to be more likely to grenade than a car with no over rev activity. What over revs do represent though are a datum point for which that car will be compared to others.Cant blame a chap for being cautious. Just trying to add some perspective to the debate
GoatRider said:
The 1 owner 996 GT3 Comfort just on in Yorkshire with 34k miles has received several offers, sight unseen, the highest being 75k. What it actually goes for we will never know, unless the new owner fesses up on here.
Is that for real? Please don't think I don't believe what you say, that's not my intention, That just seems an outstanding offer for the car and I would have thought it would be gone and sold by the dealer for that price.
mollytherocker said:
I am not sure what you can achieve really. It is what it is whether you like it or not.
You say you have had a decent bid on the car, so take it?
Having said that, I wouldnt be surprised if this thread gets you a sale at a higher price.
I am sure thats not your intention.
Let's not pick peanuts out of s**t, that's exactly my intention. You say you have had a decent bid on the car, so take it?
Having said that, I wouldnt be surprised if this thread gets you a sale at a higher price.
I am sure thats not your intention.
Why have I not already taken the two dealer bids or the private bid I've received this week..... Because the dealers NEED to make £10k (OPC) or £5k (Indy) and the private is from someone who can't proceed until the end of the month.
It's like everything - speculation buys you nothing - cash will buy you an appreciating GT3.
Also, I haven't advertised the car yet.
GoatRider said:
Spoke to the dealer earlier today and just quoting his words. I can't imagine it going for that kind of money but in a land of no choice who the hell knows. Having said that, this one had one owner and full opc service which is attractive to a certain kind of buyer I guess.
You are quite right in the fact of there is no choice, I am so pleased I bought mine when I did, I nearly walked away because I could not get my head round spending what I did on mine,I thought it was over the odds but it was a mint car in a superb colour and with fantastic provenance with every piece of paperwork from new and from one of the best indys in the game. Looking back it was the best purchase I have ever made car wise.
ro51ter said:
Be shocked if any op offered you anymore than 55 to 60k for that car.
Great how people try and talk up values!
The Gt3 world is now full of greed and not about car enjoyment.
Market strength and value has nothing to do with greed - if you were selling a GT3, you'd want the best money you could possibly achieve. To confirm, I've enjoyed every second of ownership and every mile of driving in the GT3 - it's an awesome car and not many others run it close - I'm also going to enjoy spending the significant amount of money I've made through 15 months of ownership. £55 - £60 k - that's less than I bought it for. You're completely out of touch with the market. Great how people try and talk up values!
The Gt3 world is now full of greed and not about car enjoyment.
Edited by BigO1977 on Thursday 5th March 06:09
Thanks for everyone's positive comments - nice to see that there are some genuine Petrol heads that understand the machines in which we invest all our time, money and lives!
I'll let you know how I get on with the sale and where it eventually ends up!
All the best to you all.
I'll let you know how I get on with the sale and where it eventually ends up!
All the best to you all.
Edited by BigO1977 on Thursday 5th March 06:08
ArcticGT said:
I'd be more sceptical of a car showing zero to be honest, how do you know they've not been reset ?
Or that it hasn't spent it's entire life bouncing the soft limiter where no ignitions are recorded ?
My gen 2 GT3 is the cleanest example I've ever seen. It's been used and has a few tiny stone chips but has clearly been cared for - not even the slightest rub on the seat bolster after almost 20k miles. It had 1 owner when I purchased via OPC, always serviced by the supplying dealer and had a totally clean RR printout - it's clearly a totally original car. When I eventually sell I can pretty much guarantee it will still show zero hits in any range. I don't see why that's so hard to believe? We don't all aggressively slam a downshift into the wrong gear. Or that it hasn't spent it's entire life bouncing the soft limiter where no ignitions are recorded ?
ArcticGT said:
The point I'm making is at least the 996 cars record ignitions every time it's spun up to the limiter, the 997 cars don't. A 200Hr car could've spent half those hours at 8xxx rpm and not have any RR activity recorded. Likewise another 200Hr car could've recorded 40ignitions in RR4 (like this Blue car) but spent the entire rest of its life below 6Krpm.
I know which car I'd rather buy and it wouldn't be the one with zero RRs
Actually, I don't believe you're correct. I queried this recently with a "guru" in the industry and was advised that on 996, any RR hit was the result of a missed shift. It was raised during the sale of my 6 GT2. I know which car I'd rather buy and it wouldn't be the one with zero RRs
I see absolutely no logic in your statement that you'd prefer to buy a car with RR hits than not. Good car or not, I wouldn't want the hassle associated with a car having RR4 hits.
m33ufo said:
My gen 2 GT3 is the cleanest example I've ever seen. It's been used and has a few tiny stone chips but has clearly been cared for - not even the slightest rub on the seat bolster after almost 20k miles. It had 1 owner when I purchased via OPC, always serviced by the supplying dealer and had a totally clean RR printout - it's clearly a totally original car. When I eventually sell I can pretty much guarantee it will still show zero hits in any range. I don't see why that's so hard to believe? We don't all aggressively slam a downshift into the wrong gear.
Happen to agree fully with that. A good friend of mine owns in my humble opinion one of the best 997.1 GT3 CS cars I have seen..all the right spec and I was there when he bought it with the DME read out showing zero rev ranges in any of the 6 bands.From what I hear even it was over 200 operating hours ago, OPC's will still warranty a car that has a recorded RR6 - even thought I thought it meant the engine was toast. Point is that people who pay top money for these cars quite rightly want the best examples. Friend of mine has been after a good 997.1 Turbo for ages and said all the ones he has seen all have issues - quite a few with over revs and the money thats being asked for them is just too much - so I suppose it pushes up the better cars even more.I actually deleted my last post as I can't be bothered to argue but parts of it have already been quoted.
Guys, believe what you want, it's your own money - no one else's. You won't change my opinion though !
M33ufo your "guru" is most definitely wrong, or you've interpreted what they've said wrongly.
Guys, believe what you want, it's your own money - no one else's. You won't change my opinion though !
M33ufo your "guru" is most definitely wrong, or you've interpreted what they've said wrongly.
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