£100k windfall

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Sparkzz

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450 posts

136 months

Sunday 8th March 2015
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I'll keep this short,
Close friend won £100k last night on a scratch card. He's 21, has never earned more than 20k a year, has no dependencies or mortgage, wants to invest but has no idea where to start. He's currently thinking about buying an articulated lorry as he's got the correct licenses.

Ideas?

cossy400

3,161 posts

184 months

Sunday 8th March 2015
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Sparkzz said:
I'll keep this short,
Close friend won £100k last night on a scratch card. He's 21, has never earned more than 20k a year, has no dependencies or mortgage, wants to invest but has no idea where to start. He's currently thinking about buying an articulated lorry as he's got the correct licenses.

Ideas?
NO NO NO NO NO NO under no circumstances buy a lorry. far too much money wasted,

Work for someone bang a big chunk down on a house and have a good holiday.



but that's me.

Xaero

4,060 posts

215 months

Sunday 8th March 2015
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Where is he going to park the lorry!?

If I was in his position I'd be speaking to a mortgage broker personally and seeing what he can get. Depending on where you/he lives, considering he has under £20k salary, all of that money could be taken up by a house very easily (he won't be able to get a big mortgage is what I'm getting at here). Although with that sort of win he should enjoy a bit still too, maybe a bit on a car or whatever he's into.

Investing it and getting a 5% return is losing if he decides to get on the property ladder in 5 years time and the prices go up 30% or so.

HonestIago

1,719 posts

186 months

Sunday 8th March 2015
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In that situation I'd probably "blow" £10k on a car or holidays etc, keep £20k cash in interest paying bank accounts and the rest on a house deposit.

sidicks

25,218 posts

221 months

Sunday 8th March 2015
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£15k into a cash ISA
£15k into a savings account
£5k on a holiday
£5k on 'treats'
£50K deposit for a house
£10k contingency!

Ginge R

4,761 posts

219 months

Sunday 8th March 2015
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Do absolutely nothing, ideally forget all about it, for at least a month.

Some Gump

12,687 posts

186 months

Sunday 8th March 2015
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House.

People say enjoy it - i can guarantee the best way to enjoy it is to have 1/2 the mortgage of your peers. Borrowing 100k over 25 years makes you pay back a lot more - like 150k or something. Being careful now, and NOT blowing 10k being flash / daft will effectively mean he has the equivalent to 15k to blow when he's older.

sidicks

25,218 posts

221 months

Sunday 8th March 2015
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Some Gump said:
House.

People say enjoy it - i can guarantee the best way to enjoy it is to have 1/2 the mortgage of your peers. Borrowing 100k over 25 years makes you pay back a lot more - like 150k or something.
Borrowing £100k at 6.5% over 25 years means that you pay back circa £200k!!

Simpo Two

85,349 posts

265 months

Sunday 8th March 2015
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Then again my grandfather bought a lorry in about 1925 and did rather well out of it. But it depends how business-savvy your friend is; as said it would be very easy to lose the lot.

£100K is a fantastic financial start in life, I really hope he makes the most of it.

Jasandjules

69,867 posts

229 months

Sunday 8th March 2015
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If possible, 30k down on a flat. Then a buy to let mortgage. Rent out.
DO this again. Then he has two flats earning income.

40k left as a float, maybe 3k on a nice holiday. Some in the bank for any time the flats are not occupied...

ellroy

7,027 posts

225 months

Sunday 8th March 2015
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Ginge R said:
Do absolutely nothing, ideally forget all about it, for at least a month.
+1.

Ginge speaks the truth. Sit it in as higher yielding accessible account as he can find and then think long and hard about what he wants it to do for him.

There's no point in rushing the decision.

lewisf182

2,089 posts

188 months

Sunday 8th March 2015
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Jasandjules said:
If possible, 30k down on a flat. Then a buy to let mortgage. Rent out.
DO this again. Then he has two flats earning income.

40k left as a float, maybe 3k on a nice holiday. Some in the bank for any time the flats are not occupied...
This, 10000%. Buy his own house, buy 2 more flats around the 70k range on buy to lets and make sure the rent more than covers the mortgage. Cant lose really, come 15 years time that £100k will be £300k

Claudia Skies

1,098 posts

116 months

Sunday 8th March 2015
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lewisf182 said:
This, 10000%. Buy his own house, buy 2 more flats around the 70k range on buy to lets and make sure the rent more than covers the mortgage. Cant lose really, come 15 years time that £100k will be £300k
I may not be the world's biggest star at arithmetic but I'm struggling to follow that.

One of my touchstones is that as soon as people say "you can't lose" it's time to run away!

What would I do? Put it towards buying my own house. And if I already owned my house I'd be looking at Sidicks post above.

Mattt

16,661 posts

218 months

Monday 9th March 2015
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Ginge R said:
Do absolutely nothing, ideally forget all about it, for at least a month.
I agree, apart from sticking £15k into this years ISA before month end.

HonestIago

1,719 posts

186 months

Monday 9th March 2015
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Jasandjules said:
If possible, 30k down on a flat. Then a buy to let mortgage. Rent out.
DO this again. Then he has two flats earning income.

40k left as a float, maybe 3k on a nice holiday. Some in the bank for any time the flats are not occupied...
Before getting my BTL I remember one of the mortgage stipulations being you have to be earning £25k pa minimum to get a BTL mortgage...probably depends on the provider though.

Badvok

1,867 posts

167 months

Monday 9th March 2015
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he could be earning £35k+ with a class 1 licence. Sink £90k into a mortgage and go find a better job

Big congratulations on his potentially life changing kickstart in life

HonestIago

1,719 posts

186 months

Monday 9th March 2015
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The OP said his friend has never earned more than £20k pa.

Pickled Piper

6,339 posts

235 months

Monday 9th March 2015
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Ginge R said:
Do absolutely nothing, ideally forget all about it, for at least a month.
Good advice. However, surely he should allocate a certain amount to be spent during that month on women and alcohol.

smile

isee

3,713 posts

183 months

Monday 9th March 2015
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He is 21,
unless he is Richard Branson level of business savvy, he should not be putting his money into a depreciating asset (lorry). If he does, he needs to pay for a feasibility study and a business plan to avoid losing his dough.

His idea might work out and his 100k will allow him to earn 15k more p.a. sure, but bare in mind that at 6.5% interest (something you would likely get in an average buy to let) that has Future value of £-14,702. assuming he can sell his then 10 year old truck for 20k (that's 10,654 in today's money) so a net loss of £4000 for all his troubles as well as this whole world of business risk and running costs and labour... My estimates may be a bit off, but even with a big error margin in my calculations it sounds like a big big mistake to do what he is planning on doing...

Stu R

21,410 posts

215 months

Monday 9th March 2015
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At 21 with a class 1 I'm guessing he's never earned more than 20k p/a doing trucking because he's recently qualified and / or lacks experience?

At that age I'd be more inclined to tell him to invest some of it in himself than throw it all down on a house. If he's not earning a good clip doing it as a driver, what's to say he'd be any better suited to being an owner operator which comes with way more crap to deal with along with the higher income?