Jeremy Clarkson suspended by BBC...

[davepoth]

Willy Nilly said:

and who is the star of the show that the whole thing revolves around?

Go on tour with the Rolling Stones and if Mick Jagger wants a steak after a concert you stay and wait until he is ready. You don't flounce off at 10pm, you stay, do your job and cook the steak.

Not just the Rolling Stones. On tour, the only things you crave are food and bed, because the only constants are food and bed. The lack of hot food was a cock-up, but in no way justified a punch.

[Astacus]

racinghep said:

So this is a question.

Is your boss always your boss?

I mean irrespective of location or circumstance?

So if he knees you in the groin in Tesco for grabbing the last packet of chipolatas on Xmas eve... Do you inform HR?

No that's not the question at all. the question is

Is it right that some one smashes you in the gob for what ever reason

its as simple as that really

I bloody hate chipolatas, awful stty things

Its not so much about the boss minion relationship, its more a question of whether its ok for some bugger to smack you in the mouth because he feels like it isn't it.

Edited by Astacus on Thursday 26th March 23:17

[Devil2575]

Willy Nilly said:

and who is the star of the show that the whole thing revolves around?

Go on tour with the Rolling Stones and if Mick Jagger wants a steak after a concert you stay and wait until he is ready. You don't flounce off at 10pm, you stay, do your job and cook the steak.

Flounce off? Seriously? So you know the situation then? Or are you just talking out of your back passage like many people on this thread.

Mick Jagger's cook will be paid to be there, if the guy in the place they were eating was being paid he would have been there.

It's high time people started standing up to self important celebrities throwing tantrums like over-grown children. I don't give a flying fk whether they are the talent or not. They need to start behaving like reasonable adults.

I don't know what's worse, the celebrities or the sycophants.

[cardigankid]

What he said +100

Not only must you question the professionalism of those who organised the accommodation, but you must question what the hotel thought they were on. They were hosting the stars of one of the worlds most popular TV programmes. How hard is it to keep the Polish chef on a bit longer? Were they trying to wind Clarkson up? I'm sure that the BBC were paying enough.

I take exception to the BBC because they have not punished Clarkson. They have deprived us of programmes which we as licence payers have paid for. They have thrown away programmes already made, the magazines, the syndication, the spin offs, the branded goods., I'm told that the anticipated loss is £50m. Soon they will be asking us to volunteer to pay a larger Licence Fee. It's just a disaster.

[Devil2575]

racinghep said:

So this is a question.

Is your boss always your boss?

I mean irrespective of location or circumstance?

So if he knees you in the groin in Tesco for grabbing the last packet of chipolatas on Xmas eve... Do you inform HR?

Don't be so silly.

If you're away on company business in the hotel bar after hours your boss is still your boss.

Besides, if my boss punched me in Tesco I would bring it up to HR, because it does affect work.

[nyxster]

Devil2575 said:

Don't be so silly.

If you're away on company business in the hotel bar after hours your boss is still your boss.

Besides, if my boss punched me in Tesco I would bring it up to HR, because it does affect work.

I should think so too. The least he could do is take you to Waitrose.

[racinghep]

Devil2575 said:

racinghep said:

So this is a question.

Is your boss always your boss?

I mean irrespective of location or circumstance?

So if he knees you in the groin in Tesco for grabbing the last packet of chipolatas on Xmas eve... Do you inform HR?

Don't be so silly.

If you're away on company business in the hotel bar after hours your boss is still your boss.

Besides, if my boss punched me in Tesco I would bring it up to HR, because it does affect work.

In my own experience, it might be a business trip but what happens out of "office hours" stays out of work.

I have done 2,3,4 and more week stints away from home (in some utterly inhospitable places) and whilst I am the boss - that is not how it works. I have to say I have never been punched, I did get into it once with my now Sales Director... Total wker, love him until the day I die and could punch him in the face daily. His clothes ended up frozen and semi seriously he could have died (he actually fell into an ice hole - long story!)

He is alive and still a knob, but he is very good at what he does.

Never once considered firing the prick though, for a start I would be bored to tears! Oh and broke!

[Chlamydia]

Jimbo0912 said:

For all the Clarkson bum chums on here, just a few questions:

- Who spent the afternoon/evening getting pissed up in a pub?
- Who delayed the helicopter for over 3 hours at huge expense?
- Who turned up too late for hot food even though he knew previously at what time the chef closed the kitchen?
- Who drunkenly hurled expletives and threw his toys out of the pram like a giant f**king baby when he didn't get his way?
- Who punched a colleague in the face in front of over a dozen witnesses?
- Who behaved in a completely unprofessional manner?

Clarkson was rightfully let go, there was no other option as the one fact that has been established is that there was a punch, but come on, stop stating media hyperbole as fact. And be careful you don't call someone "bum chum" at work, that will get you into serious trouble - that last bit was a joke BTW (some people seem to be getting rather wound up here today so I thought I'd make it clear).

[NoNeed]

Jimbo0912 said:

For all the Clarkson bum chums on here, just a few questions:

- Who spent the afternoon/evening getting pissed up in a pub?
- Who delayed the helicopter for over 3 hours at huge expense?
- Who turned up too late for hot food even though he knew previously at what time the chef closed the kitchen?
- Who drunkenly hurled expletives and threw his toys out of the pram like a giant f**king baby when he didn't get his way?
- Who punched a colleague in the face in front of over a dozen witnesses?
- Who behaved in a completely unprofessional manner?

And what employer allowed all that to happen?

What employer allowed at least five of those things you mention to become the norm?


Punching a colleague is wrong, I don't know anybody who says differently but lets be clear here, the Beeb did for Clarkson to hide it's own failings as an employer, the bloke that went off after Clarkson had a go obviously got enough people worried about their own positions with claims of maybe stress/harassment/bullying e.t.c to make somebody concerned enough to tip Clarkson off. He then turned himself in maybe to try and get in first, he was wrong to do what he did and many many people have been waiting for him to cross the line properly rather than putting a foot over the line to wind people up as they now can have a go.


The beeb failed miserably in the duty as an employer have have failed for many decades and doing Clarkson was more about hiding their failings than actually trying to put them right.

[TheEnd]

NoNeed said:

The beeb failed miserably in the duty as an employer have have failed for many decades and doing Clarkson was more about hiding their failings than actually trying to put them right.

That's just stupid.

[Wacky Racer]

Willy Nilly said:

Jimbo0912 said:

For all the Clarkson bum chums on here, just a few questions:

- Who spent the afternoon/evening getting pissed up in a pub?
- Who delayed the helicopter for over 3 hours at huge expense?
- Who turned up too late for hot food even though he knew previously at what time the chef closed the kitchen?
- Who drunkenly hurled expletives and threw his toys out of the pram like a giant f**king baby when he didn't get his way?
- Who punched a colleague in the face in front of over a dozen witnesses?
- Who behaved in a completely unprofessional manner?

and who is the star of the show that the whole thing revolves around?

Go on tour with the Rolling Stones and if Mick Jagger wants a steak after a concert you stay and wait until he is ready. You don't flounce off at 10pm, you stay, do your job and cook the steak.

I'd tell him to stick his Brown Sugar up his ar*e.

Or better still p*ss on his steak.

[TTwiggy]

NoNeed said:

And what employer allowed all that to happen?

What employer allowed at least five of those things you mention to become the norm?


Punching a colleague is wrong, I don't know anybody who says differently but lets be clear here, the Beeb did for Clarkson to hide it's own failings as an employer, the bloke that went off after Clarkson had a go obviously got enough people worried about their own positions with claims of maybe stress/harassment/bullying e.t.c to make somebody concerned enough to tip Clarkson off. He then turned himself in maybe to try and get in first, he was wrong to do what he did and many many people have been waiting for him to cross the line properly rather than putting a foot over the line to wind people up as they now can have a go.


The beeb failed miserably in the duty as an employer have have failed for many decades and doing Clarkson was more about hiding their failings than actually trying to put them right.

I think we have a winner right here.

Seriously, how much in love with Clarkson do you have to be in order to type this ste with a straight face?

[nyxster]

Wacky Racer said:

Or better still p*ss on his steak.

That'll earn you a michelin star in a posh noshery, just make sure you garnish with caramelised shallots and mix your piss with a cranberry and truffle jus.

[mybrainhurts]

Moonhawk said:

mybrainhurts said:

Moonhawk said:

TKF said:

Reading through this thread it's easy to see how Saville got away with it for so long. Thankfully it's 2015, not 1985.

Perhaps we need a new internet law:

Savilles Law - an Internet adage asserting that "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving paedophiles increases".

You do know a BBC staffer introduced the comparison, don't you?

So what. Does repeating the words of a moron make it any less moronic?
.

No, why do you ask?

[TankRizzo]

Willy Nilly said:

and who is the star of the show that the whole thing revolves around?

Go on tour with the Rolling Stones and if Mick Jagger wants a steak after a concert you stay and wait until he is ready. You don't flounce off at 10pm, you stay, do your job and cook the steak.

What is this utter rubbish? He is a TV presenter, not the fking Queen. Pity he's clearly lost sight of that over time.

[anonymous-user]

Moonhawk said:

By persuing Clarkson over more trivial matters and giving him multiple warnings, including a final warning over his alleged mumbling of the N word which wasn't even broadcast - they backed themselves into a corner and couldn't be seen to issue another final warning. Had they been a bit more considered over these previous issues - that option may have still been available.

bodhi said:

That would also depend on whether you think the member of staff in question should have been on a final warning in the first place (I personally don't).

I imagine the assault / verbal abuse in itself would have easily reached the threshold for gross misconduct.

Personally, regardless of how the BBC treated the things prior to this, I don't see why he needed to even go near the racial elements. He could be 'controversial' enough without having to make "slope" etc jokes.

[NoNeed]

TTwiggy said:

I think we have a winner right here.

Seriously, how much in love with Clarkson do you have to be in order to type this ste with a straight face?

Well if you know an organisation that lets employees regularly get drunk on the job, be late for expensive travel arrangements and still get the hotel manager to cook a steak when you do finally arrive please tell me so I can send my CV.

Oh and you obviously didn't read the bit where I said Clarkson was wrong, I will also say it was right that he went but it would also be right for the person that allowed a situation to develop by where they are trying to control some very drunk employees especially those in the public eye.

[Dr Imran T]

Apologies if this has been asked before but what is the deal with Clarkson riding a push-bike?

I thought he was joking about the whole bike thing, does he actually use the bike to get around then?

[chrispmartha]

NoNeed said:

And what employer allowed all that to happen?

What employer allowed at least five of those things you mention to become the norm?


Punching a colleague is wrong, I don't know anybody who says differently but lets be clear here, the Beeb did for Clarkson to hide it's own failings as an employer, the bloke that went off after Clarkson had a go obviously got enough people worried about their own positions with claims of maybe stress/harassment/bullying e.t.c to make somebody concerned enough to tip Clarkson off. He then turned himself in maybe to try and get in first, he was wrong to do what he did and many many people have been waiting for him to cross the line properly rather than putting a foot over the line to wind people up as they now can have a go.


The beeb failed miserably in the duty as an employer have have failed for many decades and doing Clarkson was more about hiding their failings than actually trying to put them right.

This is a comedy post, right?

Anyway of course the BBC have a duty of care for its employees, and that is exactly why they have made sure that the guy they employ doesn't have to be smacked in the mouth again by not renewing a subcontractors contract who smacked him in the mouth. (Clarkson wasn't an employee btw!)

I

[Corpulent Tosser]

TheEnd said:

NoNeed said:

The beeb failed miserably in the duty as an employer have have failed for many decades and doing Clarkson was more about hiding their failings than actually trying to put them right.

That's just stupid.

It goes WAY beyond stupid.