Quick header advise

Quick header advise

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Phillphill

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284 posts

146 months

Wednesday 18th March 2015
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After a little help if possible, new here with a 04 cv8

Are the vxr headers a worthwhile upgrade or is it better to go for a full long header setup ie pacemakers
Yo
Currently a very good friend is working for BMW in Sydney and had managed to sort some fairly good shipping rates.
Hsv shorty headers are cheap and plentiful in Australia but are they worth it?

The car is fairly low, but I am budget conscious also. No stranger to cars having just sold my e30 v8 racecar as I wanted to make a change to the ls motor.

Various other plans with the motor so another question is will the shorty headers become a limitation, I am talking bolt ons only, maybe cam/supercharger

Hope that makes sense!

jameshsv

5,844 posts

160 months

Wednesday 18th March 2015
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Phillphill said:
After a little help if possible, new here with a 04 cv8

Are the vxr headers a worthwhile upgrade or is it better to go for a full long header setup ie pacemakers
Yo
Currently a very good friend is working for BMW in Sydney and had managed to sort some fairly good shipping rates.
Hsv shorty headers are cheap and plentiful in Australia but are they worth it?

The car is fairly low, but I am budget conscious also. No stranger to cars having just sold my e30 v8 racecar as I wanted to make a change to the ls motor.

Various other plans with the motor so another question is will the shorty headers become a limitation, I am talking bolt ons only, maybe cam/supercharger

Hope that makes sense!
Vince has a set of second hand hsv shorty headers for sale.Overall cam/charger depends what budget yoh have to spend

ARAF

20,759 posts

223 months

Wednesday 18th March 2015
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Yes, the stubbies are better than your cast manifolds, but whether they are the ones to go for depends how far you want to take the modifications.
There's a set of VXR headers on ebay at the moment in the UK (Kent) if you decide that's what you need at the moment. They're owned by VinceM, so you can always PM him, and see what he wants for them, and if he will pull his auction. Probably still cheaper than getting a set freighted from Oz.

007 VXR

64,187 posts

187 months

Wednesday 18th March 2015
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+1 Give VinceM a MP smile

VinceM

1,895 posts

138 months

Wednesday 18th March 2015
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Yup send me a PM if you're interested.

The stubbies will pose no issues with ground clearance on standard suspension. I've got long tube headers on mine now, with standard suspension (at the moment) and again no ground clearance issues so far but I know lowered cars can scrape the headers over speed bumps although from what I've read that varies from car to car. I can't see that you'd have issues with the shorty headers as they are a factory fit product.

Well_Fans

4,193 posts

224 months

Wednesday 18th March 2015
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I'm interested in them as well, been after a set of those for a while but being 400 miles+ north of you collection only makes it impossible. Think you'd have gotten more bidders if you'd priced courier delivery costs and offered it as an option.

VinceM

1,895 posts

138 months

Wednesday 18th March 2015
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Well_Fans said:
I'm interested in them as well, been after a set of those for a while but being 400 miles+ north of you collection only makes it impossible. Think you'd have gotten more bidders if you'd priced courier delivery costs and offered it as an option.
It's a lot of messing around which is why I was reluctant to, but I'm sure we could come to some arrangement. I haven't bought anything for my Monaro recently so haven't got any packing material to recycle at the moment, not enough to do a set of headers lol

MyM8V8

9,457 posts

195 months

Wednesday 18th March 2015
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OP. Long tube headers are better for peak performance at higher rev ranges. If you are a dyno queen and are chasing numbers, or if you want peak performance on the track or drag strip, Long Tubes would be the ones to go for.

The shorty headers will give you an increase in average power throughout the rev range, so these will be an ideal upgrade from the stock cast iron items and give good mid range power too.

I had 1.5/8" shorties on a supercharged 6.0L motor that made 705 fwhp. It drove very well and sounded just awesome. I think these will be ideal for a mildly tuned 5.7L car.

I hope this answers your query.

Phillphill

Original Poster:

284 posts

146 months

Wednesday 18th March 2015
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Thank you all very much for the advise!
Vince ill pm you regarding your set, i can come and collect as im only based in Hampshire

ARAF

20,759 posts

223 months

Wednesday 18th March 2015
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Phillphill said:
Thank you all very much for the advise!
Vince ill pm you regarding your set, i can come and collect as im only based in Hampshire
I did look to see where you were, before suggesting. There's a virtual shuttle service, between Hampshire and Kent, with the Hampshire Mafia visiting Kent for bacon sarnies, and the Kent Chapter travelling to Hampshire for cars and KFCs. wink

007 VXR

64,187 posts

187 months

Wednesday 18th March 2015
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ARAF said:
Phillphill said:
Thank you all very much for the advise!
Vince ill pm you regarding your set, i can come and collect as im only based in Hampshire
I did look to see where you were, before suggesting. There's a virtual shuttle service, between Hampshire and Kent, with the Hampshire Mafia visiting Kent for bacon sarnies, and the Kent Chapter travelling to Hampshire for cars and KFCs. wink
I will be heading down that way in about 2 weeks or so , if this helps. and Vince is only up the road from me ..

blue666uk

690 posts

124 months

Wednesday 18th March 2015
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007 VXR said:
ARAF said:
Phillphill said:
Thank you all very much for the advise!
Vince ill pm you regarding your set, i can come and collect as im only based in Hampshire
I did look to see where you were, before suggesting. There's a virtual shuttle service, between Hampshire and Kent, with the Hampshire Mafia visiting Kent for bacon sarnies, and the Kent Chapter travelling to Hampshire for cars and KFCs. wink
I will be heading down that way in about 2 weeks or so , if this helps. and Vince is only up the road from me ..
Will they actually fit in the back of a Monaro?

007 VXR

64,187 posts

187 months

Wednesday 18th March 2015
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blue666uk said:
007 VXR said:
ARAF said:
Phillphill said:
Thank you all very much for the advise!
Vince ill pm you regarding your set, i can come and collect as im only based in Hampshire
I did look to see where you were, before suggesting. There's a virtual shuttle service, between Hampshire and Kent, with the Hampshire Mafia visiting Kent for bacon sarnies, and the Kent Chapter travelling to Hampshire for cars and KFCs. wink
I will be heading down that way in about 2 weeks or so , if this helps. and Vince is only up the road from me ..
Will they actually fit in the back of a Monaro?
yes

SturdyHSV

10,095 posts

167 months

Wednesday 18th March 2015
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blue666uk said:
Will they actually fit in the back of a Monaro?
They're called shorty headers for a reason!

blue666uk

690 posts

124 months

Wednesday 18th March 2015
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SturdyHSV said:
They're called shorty headers for a reason!
Its the rest of the cat pipe its mounted to - you seen the pics!

SturdyHSV

10,095 posts

167 months

Wednesday 18th March 2015
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blue666uk said:
Its the rest of the cat pipe its mounted to - you seen the pics!
Fair enough, I'd assume the stuff unbolts into bitesize chunks suitable for a small boot Ro, could be wrong though! hehe

ARAF

20,759 posts

223 months

Wednesday 18th March 2015
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SturdyHSV said:
blue666uk said:
Its the rest of the cat pipe its mounted to - you seen the pics!
Fair enough, I'd assume the stuff unbolts into bitesize chunks suitable for a small boot Ro, could be wrong though! hehe
If not, the pipes can go on the back seat, and 003.5 can go in the boot. wink

Phillphill

Original Poster:

284 posts

146 months

Wednesday 18th March 2015
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Super helpful forum, very different to the bmw forums of the world!
I should be able to nip down. Ill take the company car though...diesel and all that!

But i was surprised how much fits in the back of a monaro, 2 bikes in the boot!
Looking forward to hooking it all up!

aalveris

6 posts

121 months

Sunday 24th May 2015
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Hi,are those headers gone?