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Well it arrived yesterday 
Set it up, and have to say relatively pleased so far. (I haven't tried headphones, but I'll give that a go in due course).
Set it up, and have to say relatively pleased so far. (I haven't tried headphones, but I'll give that a go in due course).
Kapenta said:
I bought one too and it's useless. Windows 8.1 on a tablet is not a good experience if you have come from IOS or Android. There just aren't enough applications for commonly used applications, such as YouTube, Gmail, SkyGo and a host of other that I use all the time.
I immediately reverted back to Nexus 7, which just works...
It's a full Windows OS, you can install anything that runs on a normal desktop (within limits, i doubt it'd handle Battlefield, Crysis etc), you don't have to stick to store apps......so not sure I agree with your assesmentI immediately reverted back to Nexus 7, which just works...
Kapenta said:
I bought one too and it's useless. Windows 8.1 on a tablet is not a good experience if you have come from IOS or Android. There just aren't enough applications for commonly used applications, such as YouTube, Gmail, SkyGo and a host of other that I use all the time.
I immediately reverted back to Nexus 7, which just works...
The Nexus 7 "works" but Android is one heck of a lot slower than W8.1 (realised that after comparing Chrome on a W8.1 tablet and Android tablet both with the same hardware).I immediately reverted back to Nexus 7, which just works...
Gmail - just use the built in email client (as you would on Android), works as well as gmail on Android.
YouTube - plenty of apps that make the official YouTube client on Android look like a mess.
Its a full blown desktop environment and has considerably more potential than Android or iOS.
clonmult said:
Kapenta said:
I bought one too and it's useless. Windows 8.1 on a tablet is not a good experience if you have come from IOS or Android. There just aren't enough applications for commonly used applications, such as YouTube, Gmail, SkyGo and a host of other that I use all the time.
I immediately reverted back to Nexus 7, which just works...
The Nexus 7 "works" but Android is one heck of a lot slower than W8.1 (realised that after comparing Chrome on a W8.1 tablet and Android tablet both with the same hardware).I immediately reverted back to Nexus 7, which just works...
Gmail - just use the built in email client (as you would on Android), works as well as gmail on Android.
YouTube - plenty of apps that make the official YouTube client on Android look like a mess.
Its a full blown desktop environment and has considerably more potential than Android or iOS.
Kapenta said:
Surface Pro 128 is somewhat different to Stream 7. Windows 8.1 on a 7 tablet is not quite the same...
For any of the Stream 7 fans out there, if you would like another "once used" factory reset, one, I'll happily take offers.
Same OS, both in tablet form. Yes, the Surface Pro is a fair bit faster, has more memory, but the interface is exactly the same.For any of the Stream 7 fans out there, if you would like another "once used" factory reset, one, I'll happily take offers.
Kapenta said:
Surface Pro 128 is somewhat different to Stream 7. Windows 8.1 on a 7 tablet is not quite the same...
For any of the Stream 7 fans out there, if you would like another "once used" factory reset, one, I'll happily take offers.
I agree that the screen size may make a difference but did you try any alternative apps for youtube and GMail? I know the built in email app can do GMail and I use OneCalendar for Google calendar integration. I don't think Sky Go has a native app but in IE it seems fine.For any of the Stream 7 fans out there, if you would like another "once used" factory reset, one, I'll happily take offers.
Got mine last night and had a little play with it. Quite impressed.
Have ordered a 64gb Micro SD card for it. I know HP state it can only use 32gb, but there are reports of it the ful 64gb.
One query I do have is about transferring files to it from a PC. Can you plug it into the PC via USB or do you need an OTG and USB transfer cable? I have an OTG for my keyboard and mouse setup that I'm going to use with it, but didn't know about connecting to a PC.
Could always just use the One Drive I guess.
Thanks all.
Have ordered a 64gb Micro SD card for it. I know HP state it can only use 32gb, but there are reports of it the ful 64gb.
One query I do have is about transferring files to it from a PC. Can you plug it into the PC via USB or do you need an OTG and USB transfer cable? I have an OTG for my keyboard and mouse setup that I'm going to use with it, but didn't know about connecting to a PC.
Could always just use the One Drive I guess.
Thanks all.
funkyrobot said:
Got mine last night and had a little play with it. Quite impressed.
Have ordered a 64gb Micro SD card for it. I know HP state it can only use 32gb, but there are reports of it the ful 64gb.
One query I do have is about transferring files to it from a PC. Can you plug it into the PC via USB or do you need an OTG and USB transfer cable? I have an OTG for my keyboard and mouse setup that I'm going to use with it, but didn't know about connecting to a PC.
Could always just use the One Drive I guess.
Thanks all.
If its anything like my Acer, it'll either be USB OTG or via your local network - just set a folder share, then go to \\<computer name>\share and copy. Have ordered a 64gb Micro SD card for it. I know HP state it can only use 32gb, but there are reports of it the ful 64gb.
One query I do have is about transferring files to it from a PC. Can you plug it into the PC via USB or do you need an OTG and USB transfer cable? I have an OTG for my keyboard and mouse setup that I'm going to use with it, but didn't know about connecting to a PC.
Could always just use the One Drive I guess.
Thanks all.
It is, after all, just a PC. It isn't really a USB client.
clonmult said:
If its anything like my Acer, it'll either be USB OTG or via your local network - just set a folder share, then go to \\<computer name>\share and copy.
It is, after all, just a PC. It isn't really a USB client.
Oh yes, noticed the share stuff too. Thanks for pointing that out. It is, after all, just a PC. It isn't really a USB client.
Tycho said:
I agree that the screen size may make a difference but did you try any alternative apps for youtube and GMail? I know the built in email app can do GMail and I use OneCalendar for Google calendar integration. I don't think Sky Go has a native app but in IE it seems fine.
I tried every YouTube type application - I subscribe to quite a few Channels and found them "difficult" to navigate.Gmail - the mail application was "ok", except when it came to highlighting multiple emails to delete / move etc, since they required a "tick" in a tiny box, as opposed to a dedicated app, where "press and hold" was much more preferable.
Tune-In radio - I couldn't find a suitable replacement app
Google Maps - ditto
SkyGo - the Website navigation is pretty dire when coming from a dedicated app
Whatsapp - no app
The list goes on an on. Granted, that for £79 you get a capable piece of hardware, but its the OS and the unusable Metro interface which don't work on a 7" tablet.
I bought one of these a few months ago for £75 to use for work when visiting sites. Considering the price (and factoring in another £10 for a Bluetooth keyboard and case, and £5 for a Bluetooth mouse) it really is an excellent device. Full fat windows with the ability to use proper versions of office including Outlook & MS Project means that it is ideal for me.
To get the most out of it (especially if you have fat fingers) a mouse and keyboard are a must. It certainly serves me well as a basic laptop replacement when out and about.
Still hankering after a Surface Pro though....
To get the most out of it (especially if you have fat fingers) a mouse and keyboard are a must. It certainly serves me well as a basic laptop replacement when out and about.
Still hankering after a Surface Pro though....
Well, I had the misfortune to forget to deselect some random "install XYZ toolbar" option when installing Chrome last night...
I have *never* see so much crapware in my life. The machine was beyond unusable within ten minutes. Everything installed everything else. A really wake up call for just how s
t Windows can be.
I only have myself to blame.
It turns out that it's got a recovery partition on it (turn on power while holding down the volume down button), so some arseing around with an otg cable, usb drive, keyboard etc. and msconfig got it all back to factory status. I even had to change my microsoft account password as no doubt there would have been keyloggers in there too.
I just can't believe google would do such a thing - to allow such stuff to piggyback on a chrome install. Just to catch the naive (or half-asleep in my case) people out.
I have *never* see so much crapware in my life. The machine was beyond unusable within ten minutes. Everything installed everything else. A really wake up call for just how s
t Windows can be. I only have myself to blame.
It turns out that it's got a recovery partition on it (turn on power while holding down the volume down button), so some arseing around with an otg cable, usb drive, keyboard etc. and msconfig got it all back to factory status. I even had to change my microsoft account password as no doubt there would have been keyloggers in there too.
I just can't believe google would do such a thing - to allow such stuff to piggyback on a chrome install. Just to catch the naive (or half-asleep in my case) people out.
dxg said:
Well, I had the misfortune to forget to deselect some random "install XYZ toolbar" option when installing Chrome last night...
I have *never* see so much crapware in my life. The machine was beyond unusable within ten minutes. Everything installed everything else. A really wake up call for just how st Windows can be.
I only have myself to blame.
It turns out that it's got a recovery partition on it (turn on power while holding down the volume down button), so some arseing around with an otg cable, usb drive, keyboard etc. and msconfig got it all back to factory status. I even had to change my microsoft account password as no doubt there would have been keyloggers in there too.
I just can't believe google would do such a thing - to allow such stuff to piggyback on a chrome install. Just to catch the naive (or half-asleep in my case) people out.
I've seen this a fair bit recently. For a long time last year, if you googled Chrome or Firefox then the first links, the 'sponsored' ones at the top of the Google results, would be a 'poisoned install' of Firefox or Chrome and your PC would be unusable shortly afterwards in the way you've described. I have *never* see so much crapware in my life. The machine was beyond unusable within ten minutes. Everything installed everything else. A really wake up call for just how s
t Windows can be. I only have myself to blame.
It turns out that it's got a recovery partition on it (turn on power while holding down the volume down button), so some arseing around with an otg cable, usb drive, keyboard etc. and msconfig got it all back to factory status. I even had to change my microsoft account password as no doubt there would have been keyloggers in there too.
I just can't believe google would do such a thing - to allow such stuff to piggyback on a chrome install. Just to catch the naive (or half-asleep in my case) people out.
So Google will not only allow it, they'll profit from it!
dxg said:
Well, I had the misfortune to forget to deselect some random "install XYZ toolbar" option when installing Chrome last night...
I have *never* see so much crapware in my life. The machine was beyond unusable within ten minutes. Everything installed everything else. A really wake up call for just how st Windows can be.
I only have myself to blame.
It turns out that it's got a recovery partition on it (turn on power while holding down the volume down button), so some arseing around with an otg cable, usb drive, keyboard etc. and msconfig got it all back to factory status. I even had to change my microsoft account password as no doubt there would have been keyloggers in there too.
I just can't believe google would do such a thing - to allow such stuff to piggyback on a chrome install. Just to catch the naive (or half-asleep in my case) people out.
Was that an official install? I've installed Chrome quite a few times and never had any rubbish.I have *never* see so much crapware in my life. The machine was beyond unusable within ten minutes. Everything installed everything else. A really wake up call for just how s
t Windows can be. I only have myself to blame.
It turns out that it's got a recovery partition on it (turn on power while holding down the volume down button), so some arseing around with an otg cable, usb drive, keyboard etc. and msconfig got it all back to factory status. I even had to change my microsoft account password as no doubt there would have been keyloggers in there too.
I just can't believe google would do such a thing - to allow such stuff to piggyback on a chrome install. Just to catch the naive (or half-asleep in my case) people out.
boxst said:
dxg said:
Well, I had the misfortune to forget to deselect some random "install XYZ toolbar" option when installing Chrome last night...
I have *never* see so much crapware in my life. The machine was beyond unusable within ten minutes. Everything installed everything else. A really wake up call for just how st Windows can be.
I only have myself to blame.
It turns out that it's got a recovery partition on it (turn on power while holding down the volume down button), so some arseing around with an otg cable, usb drive, keyboard etc. and msconfig got it all back to factory status. I even had to change my microsoft account password as no doubt there would have been keyloggers in there too.
I just can't believe google would do such a thing - to allow such stuff to piggyback on a chrome install. Just to catch the naive (or half-asleep in my case) people out.
Was that an official install? I've installed Chrome quite a few times and never had any rubbish.I have *never* see so much crapware in my life. The machine was beyond unusable within ten minutes. Everything installed everything else. A really wake up call for just how s
t Windows can be. I only have myself to blame.
It turns out that it's got a recovery partition on it (turn on power while holding down the volume down button), so some arseing around with an otg cable, usb drive, keyboard etc. and msconfig got it all back to factory status. I even had to change my microsoft account password as no doubt there would have been keyloggers in there too.
I just can't believe google would do such a thing - to allow such stuff to piggyback on a chrome install. Just to catch the naive (or half-asleep in my case) people out.
funkyrobot said:
boxst said:
dxg said:
Well, I had the misfortune to forget to deselect some random "install XYZ toolbar" option when installing Chrome last night...
I have *never* see so much crapware in my life. The machine was beyond unusable within ten minutes. Everything installed everything else. A really wake up call for just how st Windows can be.
I only have myself to blame.
It turns out that it's got a recovery partition on it (turn on power while holding down the volume down button), so some arseing around with an otg cable, usb drive, keyboard etc. and msconfig got it all back to factory status. I even had to change my microsoft account password as no doubt there would have been keyloggers in there too.
I just can't believe google would do such a thing - to allow such stuff to piggyback on a chrome install. Just to catch the naive (or half-asleep in my case) people out.
Was that an official install? I've installed Chrome quite a few times and never had any rubbish.I have *never* see so much crapware in my life. The machine was beyond unusable within ten minutes. Everything installed everything else. A really wake up call for just how s
t Windows can be. I only have myself to blame.
It turns out that it's got a recovery partition on it (turn on power while holding down the volume down button), so some arseing around with an otg cable, usb drive, keyboard etc. and msconfig got it all back to factory status. I even had to change my microsoft account password as no doubt there would have been keyloggers in there too.
I just can't believe google would do such a thing - to allow such stuff to piggyback on a chrome install. Just to catch the naive (or half-asleep in my case) people out.
papercup said:
funkyrobot said:
boxst said:
dxg said:
Well, I had the misfortune to forget to deselect some random "install XYZ toolbar" option when installing Chrome last night...
I have *never* see so much crapware in my life. The machine was beyond unusable within ten minutes. Everything installed everything else. A really wake up call for just how st Windows can be.
I only have myself to blame.
It turns out that it's got a recovery partition on it (turn on power while holding down the volume down button), so some arseing around with an otg cable, usb drive, keyboard etc. and msconfig got it all back to factory status. I even had to change my microsoft account password as no doubt there would have been keyloggers in there too.
I just can't believe google would do such a thing - to allow such stuff to piggyback on a chrome install. Just to catch the naive (or half-asleep in my case) people out.
Was that an official install? I've installed Chrome quite a few times and never had any rubbish.I have *never* see so much crapware in my life. The machine was beyond unusable within ten minutes. Everything installed everything else. A really wake up call for just how s
t Windows can be. I only have myself to blame.
It turns out that it's got a recovery partition on it (turn on power while holding down the volume down button), so some arseing around with an otg cable, usb drive, keyboard etc. and msconfig got it all back to factory status. I even had to change my microsoft account password as no doubt there would have been keyloggers in there too.
I just can't believe google would do such a thing - to allow such stuff to piggyback on a chrome install. Just to catch the naive (or half-asleep in my case) people out.
Tycho said:
papercup said:
funkyrobot said:
boxst said:
dxg said:
Well, I had the misfortune to forget to deselect some random "install XYZ toolbar" option when installing Chrome last night...
I have *never* see so much crapware in my life. The machine was beyond unusable within ten minutes. Everything installed everything else. A really wake up call for just how st Windows can be.
I only have myself to blame.
It turns out that it's got a recovery partition on it (turn on power while holding down the volume down button), so some arseing around with an otg cable, usb drive, keyboard etc. and msconfig got it all back to factory status. I even had to change my microsoft account password as no doubt there would have been keyloggers in there too.
I just can't believe google would do such a thing - to allow such stuff to piggyback on a chrome install. Just to catch the naive (or half-asleep in my case) people out.
Was that an official install? I've installed Chrome quite a few times and never had any rubbish.I have *never* see so much crapware in my life. The machine was beyond unusable within ten minutes. Everything installed everything else. A really wake up call for just how s
t Windows can be. I only have myself to blame.
It turns out that it's got a recovery partition on it (turn on power while holding down the volume down button), so some arseing around with an otg cable, usb drive, keyboard etc. and msconfig got it all back to factory status. I even had to change my microsoft account password as no doubt there would have been keyloggers in there too.
I just can't believe google would do such a thing - to allow such stuff to piggyback on a chrome install. Just to catch the naive (or half-asleep in my case) people out.
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