UKIP - The Future - Volume 4

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Axionknight

8,505 posts

135 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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Until the EU decides you are doing too well, then you get another bill - borrow 1.7 billion and hand it over, please!

Edited by Axionknight on Thursday 21st May 12:51

MGJohn

10,203 posts

183 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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318,000 in 2014 ..... frown

Still to cheer us up further, lets have a sing-along :~

"Unsustainable is what you are ... "

Axionknight said:
Until the EU decides you are doing too well, then you get another bill - borrow 1.7 billion and hand it over, please!
Is that how it works for us? Who knew?

deltaevo16

755 posts

171 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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MGJohn said:
318,000 in 2014 ..... frown

Still to cheer us up further, lets have a sing-along :~

"Unsustainable is what you are ... "

Axionknight said:
Until the EU decides you are doing too well, then you get another bill - borrow 1.7 billion and hand it over, please!
Is that how it works for us? Who knew?
Actually the figures are a lot higher. Government statistics office recorded to December 2014 Foreign National Insurance registrations at 760k, then add in the Illegal non registered I reckon the net figure to be over 500k. Given the info is easy to find I don't quite understand where this often quoted 600k came to our country comes from.

s2art

18,937 posts

253 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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Maybe, but the supermarkets estimate of our population size is several million higher than the official figures.

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

262 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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Maybe they could use something else to offer an estimate population?

FiF

44,050 posts

251 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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Mojocvh said:
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Maybe they could use something else to offer an estimate population?
Ignoring the accuracy of the respective figures it would be interesting to compare the supermarkets figures vs what the government thinks the population is by region.

The government itself , at both national and local levels, has for a long time acknowledged that their figures are out of date, just in terms of the normal movements and regional development / decline. That is before we even consider the proffered sums of net migration, which as we know is concentrated in certain areas.

MGJohn

10,203 posts

183 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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Eh Don? Uncomprehensable overload.

redcard for unreasonablenabling posted to the discussionload disruptionising deepjoyousness thread ongoingproceedoes well above the norm .. init ...OH rear-engined-coop.

Unsustainable is what you are... throw ever wider the doors. thumbup

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Disastrous

10,079 posts

217 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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Bizarre.

TKF

6,232 posts

235 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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He appears to write posts in crayon. Still, it's good they allow internet use for care in the community.

s2art

18,937 posts

253 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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Its not a couple, its 5 million more. Presumably that could be a mix of illegals plus a load of family members of the legal immigrants who came over once the individual or couple got established. It not difficult to imagine that once in a job and house found an eastern European might ship his wife, kids and old mom and dad over too.

Disastrous

10,079 posts

217 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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I think if you put a 'knowing wink' at the end, you can write any old st and still convince yourself you're giving off a 'canny punter/our man with the scoop' vibe rather than just appearing backwards.

It's a pity, as I've actually been quietly reading the last few pages rather than posting myself as there has been some fairly sensible, reasonable debate from all sides.

FiF

44,050 posts

251 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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To date the only way has been the 10 yearly census and the government is looking at alternate ways of determining population distribution to develop policies and appropriate funding that are based on wildly out of date figures.

If there are significant differences would this not give some context to that process. For example if the supermarket figures suggest significantly higher population than goes into council central funding calculations might that not indicate some issues regarding under funding, and if not then it may undercut council claims of such, which are currently rife.

I thought that was so obvious it didn't need explaining, but obviously wrong there.

smn159

12,626 posts

217 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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Disastrous said:
I think if you put a 'knowing wink' at the end, you can write any old st and still convince yourself you're giving off a 'canny punter/our man with the scoop' vibe rather than just appearing backwards.

It's a pity, as I've actually been quietly reading the last few pages rather than posting myself as there has been some fairly sensible, reasonable debate from all sides.
+1
It's bloody tedious, but keeps him happy I suppose

MGJohn

10,203 posts

183 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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s2art said:
Its not a couple, its 5 million more. Presumably that could be a mix of illegals plus a load of family members of the legal immigrants who came over once the individual or couple got established. It not difficult to imagine that once in a job and house found an eastern European might ship his wife, kids and old mom and dad over too.
No need for any imagination, that scenario is all too real. Then breeding like royalty at taxpayers expense.

Just watched a news item on this very subject.

MGJohn

10,203 posts

183 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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smn159 said:
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It's bloody tedious, but keeps him happy I suppose
Not as tedious as 300,000 + and rising. Now that's tedium big time. It aint going away. Maybe that keeps those of your mindset happy.

MGJohn

10,203 posts

183 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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So, the "actuals" could just as easily be far worse.

smn159

12,626 posts

217 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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MGJohn said:
smn159 said:
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It's bloody tedious, but keeps him happy I suppose
Not as tedious as 300,000 + and rising. Now that's tedium big time. It aint going away. Maybe that keeps those of your mindset happy.
If you say so rolleyes

MGJohn

10,203 posts

183 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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smn159 said:
MGJohn said:
smn159 said:
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It's bloody tedious, but keeps him happy I suppose
Not as tedious as 300,000 + and rising. Now that's tedium big time. It aint going away. Maybe that keeps those of your mindset happy.
If you say so rolleyes
Sadly no "IFs" involved. Being discussed on the News Channels as I type this.

s2art

18,937 posts

253 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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What are you talking about? The article stated the numbers were based from supermarket figures on food consumed, and on a 'major non-commercial agricultural institution' again on food consumed. The estimates were, respectively 80 million and 77 million.

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

262 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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Yes, shame you pitched up wasn't it.