Fitting a splitter. What angle? How far should it protrude?

Fitting a splitter. What angle? How far should it protrude?

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MPETT

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965 posts

206 months

Wednesday 25th March 2015
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I'm fitting a splitter to my Tuscan. Does anyone know technically how far it should protrude forwards and what the angle of attack should be. I've assumed it needs to protrude minimaly and the further forward it protrudes the more likely it'll get damaged by curbs and the forces acting on it. But I think it looks ace when you see more of it.



P.s. Has anyone else found 4 brass threads along the bottom edge of their tuscan? I'm assuming it's for the splitter and was fitted to non S models by default?

OlderandWiser

45 posts

151 months

Wednesday 25th March 2015
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On race cars Splitters are usually set as low as regulations allow. On road cars things like speed humps govern how low you can go. 4" is about the limit, unless you want to run the risk .... Nowadays potholes must also be a consideration.

They are usually set level. Yes the splitter is mounted via 4 threaded inserts on my car, but it's a Mk2 with a split splitter (!). Ie a small splitter on each side. I seem to remember that on the Mk1S there was also a centre fixing to carry the full width splitter.

Splitters carry significant loads especially at speed so be wary of pushing it out too far. The further forward you set it then the load on fixings is increased. For that reason you should also beware of making it too light. I've seen a flimsy splitter flex to the point where it dragged the road. And it's surprising how young children see these things as steps that help them climb up the car. On a road car I wouldn't go further forward than the bonnet edge.

I'm sure someone can give you engineering answers to your questions, these are just my thoughts.

MPETT

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965 posts

206 months

Thursday 26th March 2015
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I've made a aluminium support that runs behind the lower lip of the "mouth" and that has 3 bolts going through it, through the fibreglass and into the splitter where I've used massive penny washers to spread the load. So I'll use this rear threaded mounts and hopefully it'll be secure enough, even in I use the position shown in the bottom picture.

77racing

3,346 posts

187 months

Thursday 26th March 2015
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I'm no expert on aero but I do have a good idea. A lot will depend on the under side surface area of the splitter producing down force. Where you have it in the second picture is about right I would have thought. For racing you are limited to protruding no more than 100mm from bonnet edge forwards. Air needs to accelerate under front of car to produce higher air speed, then expand into low pressure as air travels from the splitter under the car, as it expands it creates low pressure and down force. To aid that theory you want your front splitter angled down to wards the front edge ie lower at the leading edge than the rear edge. I would have thought for the road you could try say some think like 2o mm but with out seeing the area of the splitter from front to back that could be miles out and you will no dought have to play with angles until it feels good in high speed corners. If you are just fitting the splitter to look good and it does look pretty in your picture, I would mount it flat when nose of car is at speed when the front of the car is picked up to it's maximum angle.

First picture is me making my splitter and the second is it fitted to the car.......





MPETT

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965 posts

206 months

Friday 27th March 2015
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Thanks for the advice. I'm not sure I have that much control to be able to mount it with a couple of mm of acuracy. Surly my fat arse getting into the car would upset that setting;). I'll go for a very slight downwards angle and see how that feels. Cheers, martin

That's a massive splitter you've made there! How much difference does that make? Do you race in the standard Tvr series or in a gt3 open category/class?

Hotwheels.

375 posts

233 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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Mine is set the same as the first pic, however I've never seen one protrude as far out as the second pic. I'd go for halfway between the two, happy days! smile

m4tti

5,427 posts

155 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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Hi Martin
Did you fit the splitter? How far forward did you decide on setting it?

MPETT

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206 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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m4tti said:
Hi Martin
Did you fit the splitter? How far forward did you decide on setting it?
I fitted it so that the Middle protruded about 3.5". My "mouth" section is custom so don't use it as a guide for a standard grill. I definitely feel a difference now. The rear feels a bit light, so may have to look at an "S" spoiler! wink

Martin

phazed

21,844 posts

204 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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On a chim fitted flat.






77racing

3,346 posts

187 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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Peter that's so far off the floor it is only going to be cosmetic i'm afraid ,still looks good none the less

m4tti

5,427 posts

155 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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MPETT said:
I fitted it so that the Middle protruded about 3.5". My "mouth" section is custom so don't use it as a guide for a standard grill. I definitely feel a difference now. The rear feels a bit light, so may have to look at an "S" spoiler! wink

Martin
Any pics smile

phazed

21,844 posts

204 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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77racing said:
Peter that's so far off the floor it is only going to be cosmetic i'm afraid ,still looks good none the less
Nothing wrong with cosmetics tongue out

It can't go any lower for the road, it's marginal enough at 5"!

MPETT

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965 posts

206 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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m4tti said:
Any pics smile
Mines close to 130mm from the road surface, so could be an issue with curb stones! Here's the pic of the final position. I set it to as close to level as possible.


crosseyedlion

2,175 posts

198 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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phazed said:
77racing said:
Peter that's so far off the floor it is only going to be cosmetic i'm afraid ,still looks good none the less
Nothing wrong with cosmetics tongue out

It can't go any lower for the road, it's marginal enough at 5"!
If its food for thought the tiny not particularly low splitter fitted to jags f-type makes a noticeable difference to high speed (50+) cornering.

Theres a reason these bits are spec'd on pretty much every road car. They are normally almost vertical though - allows a deeper splitter for the same ride height (maintains the speed bump/drive max entry angle)

TCTVR

83 posts

108 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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For what it is worth the splitter on my Porsche Turbo+ is set "flat" and at approx. 120mm above surface at centre. At that height and with the state of the roads it has to no be considered a (very expensive) consumable item redface.

Good luck, nicelooking car by the way

TC

Konrod

870 posts

228 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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MPETT said:
Mines close to 130mm from the road surface, so could be an issue with curb stones!
I have two splitters on my Mk 1 - when one gets damaged enough (and it will either on sleeping policemen or against curbs etc. regadless of how hard you try not to) I take it off and put the other one on, repairing the orignal ready for the next bout of damage.

having said that, the further back it sits the less likely it is to get damaged.

77racing

3,346 posts

187 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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Konrod said:
the further back it sits the less likely it is to get damaged.
the further back it sits the less likely it is to do anything biggrin

RichB

51,565 posts

284 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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MPETT said:
Mines close to 130mm from the road surface, so could be an issue with curb stones
I believe you chaps are talking about race car style splitters at the front of your cars but I just measured the splitter under the nose of my Griffith and it's 80mm (or 3.5") and I've only ever busted it off once in 15 years of ownership. But yes, it's low! laugh

Don1

15,945 posts

208 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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Mine is set up like this:




You can definitely tell the difference it makes at high speed.

GTRene

16,524 posts

224 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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looks like a nice splitter and wings.