Uploading to cloud back first time, let computer rest?

[steveatesh]

I've signed up for a cloud based backup and the total size of the files to upload for the first time is about 70gig. It's taking ages over a standard ADSL broadband service and the iMac has been running non stop for around four days.
It still has around 30 gig to go so I anticipate another four days or so.

First time I've ever ran a computer non stop like this, is it best to stop the upload and give it a break or will it just take it in ts stride?

[anonymous-user]

Just let it complete, it will be fine but that is a lot of personal data to hand over to someone else who may not even be based in this country or apply our laws.

I would still keep a local backup as clouds can evaporate and dissapear both real ones and electronic ones.

[marshalla]

gottans said:

Just let it complete, it will be fine but that is a lot of personal data to hand over to someone else who may not even be based in this country or apply our laws.

I would still keep a local backup as clouds can evaporate and dissapear both real ones and electronic ones.

And I'd be using encryption that I can control on the copy sent to the cloud too.

[Mr E]

steveatesh said:

First time I've ever ran a computer non stop like this, is it best to stop the upload and give it a break or will it just take it in ts stride?

The media box under my telly has been on for something like 4 years. Probably boots monthly for updates....

[LordGrover]

My iMac has been on 24/7 for several years. A few power cuts and reboots but all okay so far...

[jmorgan]

I leave my iMac on 24/7 now.

But, watch out for iMac sleeping, you might want to "caffeinate" in terminal to stop the machine sleeping. Think mine needed this to do the first upload to the cloud for around 200gb.

[steveatesh]

Thanks both, it's an EU based server so legal side covered, 256 bit encryption, encrypted on transfer. The few important files I have are password protected too at my end. Keeping two time machine backups as well, locally, just everything I've read about backup says its best to have a secure off site facility too.

I was relying on two USB hard drives and a local NAS in RAID until the PSU (internal) went on the NAS following a power spike, showing me how weak is a locally based only back up plan. Plus there's possible fire and theft to contend with too.

At £7.20 annually for unlimited data and automatic backup, I thought was time to add that off site backup. Lots of soul searching with the data but I decided the risks of doing it out way the risks of losing it totally.

Good points though, thanks.

[jmorgan]

Aye, I am across several hard drives, DVD and Bluray for backup to boot, including an off site copy HD.

Mine is encrypted before transfer.

[mattley]

steveatesh said:

Thanks both, it's an EU based server so legal side covered, 256 bit encryption, encrypted on transfer. The few important files I have are password protected too at my end. Keeping two time machine backups as well, locally, just everything I've read about backup says its best to have a secure off site facility too.

I was relying on two USB hard drives and a local NAS in RAID until the PSU (internal) went on the NAS following a power spike, showing me how weak is a locally based only back up plan. Plus there's possible fire and theft to contend with too.

At £7.20 annually for unlimited data and automatic backup, I thought was time to add that off site backup. Lots of soul searching with the data but I decided the risks of doing it out way the risks of losing it totally.

Good points though, thanks.

That's looks like extremely good value, would you mind sharing where you're getting that from? Are there retrieval charges?

Thanks.

[richatnort]

steveatesh said:

At £7.20 annually for unlimited data and automatic backup.

Good points though, thanks.

Could you point me to the company you used to get that price as seems very well priced!

[steveatesh]

Thanks for the reassuring comments about leaving it running.

The service is by Dupplica:

https://www.dupplica.com

30 Gig to go this morning.......
Note to self, clean out the folders!

[maffski]

steveatesh said:

Thanks both, it's an EU based server so legal side covered, 256 bit encryption, encrypted on transfer.

Don't be so sure - http://www.ciphercloud.com/blog/data-sovereignty-l...

[richatnort]

Thanks for the link! looks a good price but the only thing that's a bit weird is where it says "Need to backup your server? for just $69 extra per year, backup your mapped drive, NAS drive or network storage location."

Surly you can round this by using your laptop / desktop as the medium between duplica and my NAS?

[steveatesh]

maffski said:

Don't be so sure - http://www.ciphercloud.com/blog/data-sovereignty-l...

Thanks for the link, thing is its just home documents and photographs, if Obamas crew want them i'll be happy enough to send them to them.

But basically I'm deciding the risk of some government looking at my files on a cloud storage versus the risk of a severe power spike, theft, fire etc causing me to lose the data in it's entirety. Risk versus impact - the former - very low risk with negligible if any impact. The latter, low risk to medium risk but severe impact (as said already learned my lesson with in house NAS and power spikes, simply insufficient as backup).

[steveatesh]

richatnort said:

Thanks for the link! looks a good price but the only thing that's a bit weird is where it says "Need to backup your server? for just $69 extra per year, backup your mapped drive, NAS drive or network storage location."

Surly you can round this by using your laptop / desktop as the medium between duplica and my NAS?

I didn't understand that bit either but passed over it as I don't have a server. It's working nicely with the backup in progress, the iPad app is good and lets me easily access the files uploaded, as does the web based access via the iMac. Once the initial upload is complete it should be automatic too, like Time Machine. Its only the one computer thats important to me, this service looks ideal.

[richatnort]

steveatesh said:

I didn't understand that bit either but passed over it as I don't have a server. It's working nicely with the backup in progress, the iPad app is good and lets me easily access the files uploaded, as does the web based access via the iMac. Once the initial upload is complete it should be automatic too, like Time Machine. Its only the one computer thats important to me, this service looks ideal.

Are you uploading any movies you have on your iMac too? Does the app allow you to play these on the ipad for example? Just thinking if i'm abroad for example and took my ipad with me could i instead of trying to access my NAS at home access my dupplica account and stream / download off that?

[cuneus]

steveatesh said:

Thanks for the reassuring comments about leaving it running.

The service is by Dupplica:

https://www.dupplica.com

30 Gig to go this morning.......
Note to self, clean out the folders!

I hope I am wrong but it looks too cheap

[steveatesh]

richatnort said:

Are you uploading any movies you have on your iMac too? Does the app allow you to play these on the ipad for example? Just thinking if i'm abroad for example and took my ipad with me could i instead of trying to access my NAS at home access my dupplica account and stream / download off that?

I have not any movies per se on the iMac like you would see at the cinema, but I do have video files. I have checked the app, I could drill down to the movie file on the cloud storage and play it on the iPad via QuickTime or whatever is built into IOS.

You get a 30 day free trial, why don't you sign up, upload a movie or two then see how they play on the iPad?

Hope that helps.

[anonymous-user]

I had a quick read of their website, firstly it is denominate in USD so is an American company so your data isn't secure as the other link highlighted.

As for longevity of the company, I would give it 2 years max. It will either get bought up along with your data which would be classed as a company asset or run out of money with your data in a fire sale.

The only semi secure cloud is the one you own, period.

[abbotsmike]

gottans said:

I had a quick read of their website, firstly it is denominate in USD so is an American company so your data isn't secure as the other link highlighted.

As for longevity of the company, I would give it 2 years max. It will either get bought up along with your data which would be classed as a company asset or run out of money with your data in a fire sale.

The only semi secure cloud is the one you own, period.

Bolded. Semi secure. It can be semi secure in your house or semi secure in someones data centre. I presume you don't do online banking or buy things online either?

I took the same calculated risk, my stuff is in onedrive. If the government/hackers specifically want your stuff, they will get it, unless it is never on a machine that connects to the internet.