Forgot/Couldn't afford to pay a fine
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pinchmeimdreamin said:
What the kind of poverty that lets him run 2 cars ?
What kind of checks do you think they do? I'm not being clever - or even telling someone how to play the system. But you turn up, say you are too poor to eat and they say night in the cells = fine. That is what I've seen from people I know. I don't agree with it... And am not suggesting it. I think the lad should pay the fine. At the rate he can afford too. But I don't think he should have to sell all his possessions and his car to do so!
In my experience both for speeding and other matters the magistrates ask you if you can afford to pay straight away. I've always paid on my card within half an hour of leaving court - usually because they can't get their card machine to work at smaller courts. But I don't think some of the abuse he is getting is fair at all.
If he had a big house with a big mortgage and kids in private school the courts would take this into account. Why should him being young and having a car make a difference? He should pay what he can afford - when he can afford it. If he can't afford it he should tell the court and let them decide what to do.
photosnob said:
pinchmeimdreamin said:
What the kind of poverty that lets him run 2 cars ?
What kind of checks do you think they do? I'm not being clever - or even telling someone how to play the system. But you turn up, say you are too poor to eat and they say night in the cells = fine. That is what I've seen from people I know. I don't agree with it... And am not suggesting it. I think the lad should pay the fine. At the rate he can afford too. But I don't think he should have to sell all his possessions and his car to do so!
In my experience both for speeding and other matters the magistrates ask you if you can afford to pay straight away. I've always paid on my card within half an hour of leaving court - usually because they can't get their card machine to work at smaller courts. But I don't think some of the abuse he is getting is fair at all.
If he had a big house with a big mortgage and kids in private school the courts would take this into account. Why should him being young and having a car make a difference? He should pay what he can afford - when he can afford it. If he can't afford it he should tell the court and let them decide what to do.
A night out is £50 or more, by the time you have paid for a taxi and eaten a kebab.
No nights out for a month and you have your £200 and the authorities arent after you.
I earn £8.50 an hour, not much more than minimum wage. Im 22, have a car most people my age would love to own and a motorbike. I also live on my own (not with my family) and on the average month i have £300 left over.
How the f
k car you no gather together £200 is any bodies guess.
I sold a car when i was your age for the simple reason that i couldnt afford the bills that i would have liked to pay. Man up and sell a car if you are really that hard done by.
No nights out for a month and you have your £200 and the authorities arent after you.
I earn £8.50 an hour, not much more than minimum wage. Im 22, have a car most people my age would love to own and a motorbike. I also live on my own (not with my family) and on the average month i have £300 left over.
How the f
k car you no gather together £200 is any bodies guess.I sold a car when i was your age for the simple reason that i couldnt afford the bills that i would have liked to pay. Man up and sell a car if you are really that hard done by.
Don't ignore it. It won't go away, but you might ! You are probably being asked to fill in a declaration of income form i.e. employer, bank and NI details. Contact the Fine Enforcement Officer at the sheriff court who issued it, and discuss what you intend to do to resolve payment. Key is to keep contact and be reasonable. Don't keep him happy, he refers it to us in court. For that fine, I guess the local JPs. You get 1 citation to come to court, don't turn up and we issue a warrant for your arrest.
If at court you can't rather than won't pay, we'll offer a CPO i.e. unpaid work. I guess though if you have a car, you have the means, just not the motivation to pay. Court will decide when you appear. If you don't keep to the court imposed plan, the FEO will look at bank or wages arrestments, or seizing the car one morning if in your name. We have also launched this years holiday initiative i.e. if there's a warrant we will check outbound flights from Scotland, and you might be picked up at the airport.
Whatever you do, don't think it will go away. We will keep chasing for as long as it takes unless you disappear and are untraced for a lot longer than a year. If we have your address though, we know where to find you. Get in touch, and stay in touch. Offer what you can afford.
If at court you can't rather than won't pay, we'll offer a CPO i.e. unpaid work. I guess though if you have a car, you have the means, just not the motivation to pay. Court will decide when you appear. If you don't keep to the court imposed plan, the FEO will look at bank or wages arrestments, or seizing the car one morning if in your name. We have also launched this years holiday initiative i.e. if there's a warrant we will check outbound flights from Scotland, and you might be picked up at the airport.
Whatever you do, don't think it will go away. We will keep chasing for as long as it takes unless you disappear and are untraced for a lot longer than a year. If we have your address though, we know where to find you. Get in touch, and stay in touch. Offer what you can afford.
Slow said:
So back at the start of last year I went to court for speeding and got a £200 fine.
Slow said:
I was genuinely broke for 3 months and by then I had forgot about about the fine as I never got another letter about it until last week.
I can tell you the name of the police officer who I cross examined in court, his face, and the faces of the bench, last time I went to court.That was in 2005.
Are you suggesting that a trip to court made so little impact on you you had no recollection that you were ever there three months later?
Did you have a severe head injury?
With the greatest of respect, I think you'd get more help is you just cut out the BS and came to the point:
"I had a speeding fine in court over a year ago. I've heard I might get away with no paying this... Will I? If not, what should I do?"
South of the border, my numbskull brother in law did a similar thing and moved house a few times. A few months ago, court bailiffs turned up at his parent's house to pick up the fine he got given 5 or 6 years ago. They told his parents they were going to apply for a warrant for his arrest.
I'd suggest it won't go away, and you should pay £5 a week or whatever you can negotiate.
The maximum interest on a payday loan is 0.8% a day.
If I owed the court £200 and I was being hassled over it, but was in full time employment, I'd immediately take out a loan and get the court people off my back.
Don't you think that peace of mind is worth £1.60 a day till you clear it?
If I owed the court £200 and I was being hassled over it, but was in full time employment, I'd immediately take out a loan and get the court people off my back.
Don't you think that peace of mind is worth £1.60 a day till you clear it?
KFC said:
The maximum interest on a payday loan is 0.8% a day.
If I owed the court £200 and I was being hassled over it, but was in full time employment, I'd immediately take out a loan and get the court people off my back.
Don't you think that peace of mind is worth £1.60 a day till you clear it?
Depends if he took as long to pay off the payday loan as he did his speeding ticket! Another year down the line and he'd find himself almost 600 sheets more in the hole!If I owed the court £200 and I was being hassled over it, but was in full time employment, I'd immediately take out a loan and get the court people off my back.
Don't you think that peace of mind is worth £1.60 a day till you clear it?
FFS. I owe the HMRC £1.8K due to the tax credit bd people making a fk up and overpaying me for some many months. The HMRC demanded their money, to which they are entitled, and I have the money in savings. But I felt morally obliged to argue the toss with them about how much I could afford to pay back their mistake, and now am paying at a rate of £50 a month. I am not entitled to FORGET to pay. In life there is MONEY that is mine, and money that is not. By all means try to hang on to other peoples money by paying them back slowly, but don't make your own life miserable in doing so.
d people making a fk up and overpaying me for some many months. The HMRC demanded their money, to which they are entitled, and I have the money in savings. But I felt morally obliged to argue the toss with them about how much I could afford to pay back their mistake, and now am paying at a rate of £50 a month. I am not entitled to FORGET to pay. In life there is MONEY that is mine, and money that is not. By all means try to hang on to other peoples money by paying them back slowly, but don't make your own life miserable in doing so. northwest monkey said:
Slow said:
I have a social life, I'm only 20, I go out and enjoy my money.
I think you should go to court and tell them this. Also mention the Xbox and the new BMW. They'll understand and apologise for wasting your time.Edited by northwest monkey on Thursday 26th March 16:59
OP. I give no comment on the justification or justice of your lawfully imposed fine but you don't forget receiving a court fine. Sorry. It's like one of these thing that sticks out. Even if it was Michelle's birthday and you were meeting the lads for a curry.
You are a naive 20 yearold but bright enough to know you need advice. Contact court. Pay as much as you can honestly afford and the balance next payday.
Keep receipts for rest of life and get on with life.
Don't break 11th Commandant again.
aw51 121565 said:
Pothole said:
Slow said:
paintman said:
Didn't say I was avoiding paying, just that I can't pay the whole amount right now, was wondering what I do in this situation.
Yes I can afford it monthly, doesn't mean I always keep money? I have a social life, I'm only 20, I go out and enjoy my money.
Seriously? Pay your due before your YOLO bullsYes I can afford it monthly, doesn't mean I always keep money? I have a social life, I'm only 20, I go out and enjoy my money.
t filter kicks in! Only 20 = adult so try acting like one.Edited by Pothole on Thursday 26th March 16:21
So if the mighty pistonheads rich people would like to know, I rang them again this morning, court was more than happy to take £100 now and £100 on pay day.
It was never a case of trying to avoid it, I had completely forgotten about it. Then i just got my first remainder about it, I have made every effort to pay it off asap.
It was never a case of trying to avoid it, I had completely forgotten about it. Then i just got my first remainder about it, I have made every effort to pay it off asap.
Slow said:
So if the mighty pistonheads rich people would like to know, I rang them again this morning, court was more than happy to take £100 now and £100 on pay day.
It was never a case of trying to avoid it, I had completely forgotten about it. Then i just got my first remainder about it, I have made every effort to pay it off asap.
I'm not rich, mainly through paying for stuff. Don't forget to pay the next instalment!It was never a case of trying to avoid it, I had completely forgotten about it. Then i just got my first remainder about it, I have made every effort to pay it off asap.
Slow said:
So if the mighty pistonheads rich people would like to know, I rang them again this morning, court was more than happy to take £100 now and £100 on pay day.
It was never a case of trying to avoid it, I had completely forgotten about it. Then i just got my first remainder about it, I have made every effort to pay it off asap.
Maybe it was this bit that made some people question your attitude. People can only go on what you type.It was never a case of trying to avoid it, I had completely forgotten about it. Then i just got my first remainder about it, I have made every effort to pay it off asap.
Slow said:
Now I've been told by some people that it has been over a year so I don't have to pay?
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