VLN crash at Nurburgring, at least one spectator killed :(
Discussion
paranha said:
Nothing like Flugplatz---After going through Hatzenbach you go through Quiddlelbacher Hohe, and climb upto Flugplatz--which is open landscape both sides of track, down to Aremberg.
This looks more like Wipperman into Eschbach/Brunchen.
It's definitely Flugplatz - the landscape opens up further down the hill towards Schwedenkreuz.This looks more like Wipperman into Eschbach/Brunchen.
Very annoying comment from him (Inoue).
Regarding Jann, I'd imagine some of the more 'traditional' racing drivers may have a bit between their teeth that he's made it by winning a computer game competition, but I also believe they'd be the first ones to empathise with him about this kind of situation.
Five years ago he was playing Gran Turismo in his bedroom with his mates, today he lost control of a GT3 car at one of the worlds most demanding circuits and went airborne in a way I haven't really seen (without contact) since the Mercs of Dumbreck and Webber at Le Mans. Poor lad...I really hope this doesn't psychologically affect him too much.
I think having a closer look at the boundary fences, the ones further back from the circuit are most likely to be the 'old' style fences. Probably cheaper to leave them in there, rather than remove them. But I guess they know for the future...
I probably come across as very insensitive for focusing my sadness on Jann and his team, apologies in advance.
Regarding Jann, I'd imagine some of the more 'traditional' racing drivers may have a bit between their teeth that he's made it by winning a computer game competition, but I also believe they'd be the first ones to empathise with him about this kind of situation.
Five years ago he was playing Gran Turismo in his bedroom with his mates, today he lost control of a GT3 car at one of the worlds most demanding circuits and went airborne in a way I haven't really seen (without contact) since the Mercs of Dumbreck and Webber at Le Mans. Poor lad...I really hope this doesn't psychologically affect him too much.
I think having a closer look at the boundary fences, the ones further back from the circuit are most likely to be the 'old' style fences. Probably cheaper to leave them in there, rather than remove them. But I guess they know for the future...
I probably come across as very insensitive for focusing my sadness on Jann and his team, apologies in advance.
I think the R35s have had issues staying on the ground at Flugplatz during previous Nordschleife races, ISTR when Kaz Yamauchi was driving he talked about using the game to find a set of aero settings that would stop the car taking off there (and it solving their real life problem).
This is the sort of thing that happened in the past, can imagine once you get the nose up this far it could go all the way:
This is the sort of thing that happened in the past, can imagine once you get the nose up this far it could go all the way:
I can't really see how Jann can be held accountable, could have just been a strong wind that was enough to tip the balance of the car and let air underneath. Wouldn't catch me sitting inbetween those two fences but hindsight is always 20:20, RIP to the person that went to enjoy a day's motorsport and didn't return home.
samoht said:
I think the R35s have had issues staying on the ground at Flugplatz during previous Nordschleife races, ISTR when Kaz Yamauchi was driving he talked about using the game to find a set of aero settings that would stop the car taking off there (and it solving their real life problem).
This is the sort of thing that happened in the past, can imagine once you get the nose up this far it could go all the way:
Here's the video of itThis is the sort of thing that happened in the past, can imagine once you get the nose up this far it could go all the way:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7chVNbiSV7k
Nissan should have fixed this years ago.
Gazzas86 said:
My sister and her husband were 100ft away from this happening today, scary. They have the crash on video but its too horiffic to share, its shook them up a fair bit tbh RIP to the spectator
I think they'll be some investigators pretty keen to get hold of any footage they can get even if you don't want it public.Very sad and my thoughts go out to all involved.
But this is yet another example of people unaware of the inherent dangers of motorsports.
The catch fence is designed to do exactly what it says: catch the car when it goes of. But with a heavy impact this fence can flex quite a lot and you can have pieces of debris flying through it.
That's why there is a second spectator fence a couple of meters back to keep the public away from the catch fence (and no you are not allowed to pass this fence, that's why there is a fence in the first place and why it has barbed wire on top of it).
In the video you can clearly see that there are a lot of people in the area between the two fences where the car landed.
Keeping the public out of these zones can be a hard job on a regular 4km track, on the 20+km Nordschleife it's nearly impossible. You can tell by the state of public fence that it gets climbed routinely.
But this is yet another example of people unaware of the inherent dangers of motorsports.
The catch fence is designed to do exactly what it says: catch the car when it goes of. But with a heavy impact this fence can flex quite a lot and you can have pieces of debris flying through it.
That's why there is a second spectator fence a couple of meters back to keep the public away from the catch fence (and no you are not allowed to pass this fence, that's why there is a fence in the first place and why it has barbed wire on top of it).
In the video you can clearly see that there are a lot of people in the area between the two fences where the car landed.
Keeping the public out of these zones can be a hard job on a regular 4km track, on the 20+km Nordschleife it's nearly impossible. You can tell by the state of public fence that it gets climbed routinely.
Vaud said:
Graham Goodwin sums it up perfectly @dsceditor: Oh and @takiinoue unfollowed - His views are like his F1 career - Pointless
airbusA346 said:
Redlake27 said:
It's not just the Nissans. I've seen many other GT3 cars, particularly the front engined ones, doing this.
Yes, a lot of them lift the front wheels, but I have heard that Nissans go higher than most of them.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5ZT2KFYY2U
em177 said:
Gazzas86 said:
My sister and her husband were 100ft away from this happening today, scary. They have the crash on video but its too horiffic to share, its shook them up a fair bit tbh RIP to the spectator
I think they'll be some investigators pretty keen to get hold of any footage they can get even if you don't want it public.http://www.dmsb.de/
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