Attached garage, without secondary access?

Attached garage, without secondary access?

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GP335i

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466 posts

164 months

Sunday 29th March 2015
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Part of my extension is putting a garage attached to the eaves end of the house (roughly 4m x 9.5m) but I'm not sure whether to bother with a seperate access door from inside the property, it wouldn't really 'fit in' anywhere to be honest. I know Hormann can provide a manual over ride on their doors so I'm not worried about power cuts or not being able to gain access etc. I'm just wondering who else doesn't have secondary access and does it bother you?

I can always add it later but as mentioned there's not really anywhere it fits ideally.

You can get an idea of the layout here, the only difference is I'm ditching the playroom now and making the garage full length. Garage will have drainage and hot/cold water so not much I need to go into the house for.


Crafty_

13,286 posts

200 months

Sunday 29th March 2015
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Wouldn't bother me particularly but if the playroom is going could you not put one through to the garden ? make getting the lawnmower/BBQ/whatever else a bit easier and means you could nip out the back door in to the garage.

Zyp

14,696 posts

189 months

Sunday 29th March 2015
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No secondary access on mine - not been a problem for the last 10 or so years.

However, if there was a possibility that I could add one, I probably would.

Alex@POD

6,151 posts

215 months

Sunday 29th March 2015
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I'd say it depends what you use the garage for. If it's only for storing the car then don't bother, but if you will be storing tools, boxes, etc in it, you might not want to be going round the front and opening the main door every single time you need something... I know if it was my garage it wouldn't be long before the car hardly fits in!

Snake the Sniper

2,544 posts

201 months

Sunday 29th March 2015
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When you mention the manual override, do you need to be inside the garage to operate it? My roller door can only be manually opened from inside, and would need forcing open from the outside. For that reason alone, I'd put a door from the garden in. As said, chances are you'll need to pop in there from time to time to grab something or other.

GP335i

Original Poster:

466 posts

164 months

Sunday 29th March 2015
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Snake the Sniper said:
When you mention the manual override, do you need to be inside the garage to operate it? My roller door can only be manually opened from inside, and would need forcing open from the outside. For that reason alone, I'd put a door from the garden in. As said, chances are you'll need to pop in there from time to time to grab something or other.
Nah it's just an additional lock barrel that you can operate from the outside. There's a path round the other side of the house for taking anything round to the back garden.

Snake the Sniper

2,544 posts

201 months

Monday 30th March 2015
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GP335i said:
Nah it's just an additional lock barrel that you can operate from the outside. There's a path round the other side of the house for taking anything round to the back garden.
In which case, I would definitely put a rear door in, as walking all the way round the house to get into the garage will wear thin after not a lot of time. I fitted a stable door for my side access as I can keep little ones in/out as needed but still reach in for useful bits.

sunbeam alpine

6,945 posts

188 months

Monday 30th March 2015
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I'd still be inclined to try and get a door in - it would be galling to scratch your car whilst getting something out of the garage.

Unfortunately I speak from experience. frown

(and in my case it was avoidable)

ndg

560 posts

237 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Definitely put a door to the garden or house. As other have said, if your working in the back garden going all the way round everytime you forget a screw will get boring fast. Also it will mean that you can leave a door open for air/light without every man and his dog getting a good look in.

I'd also have one into the house, but this is less important I think.

Adding a manual override to the door does add a security weak point, but I suppose a second door to the garden does that too!

Simpo Two

85,422 posts

265 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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I'd love a door to get from house to garage, rather than trotting round in the rain.

Unfortunately my garage is detached and 20 yards from the house frown

CoolHands

18,633 posts

195 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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haven't looked at your plans but one disadvantage of door into house is the cold. You can't insulate door easily and also can get draughts around door etc the garage in winter is pretty darn cold. Just a thought.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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CoolHands said:
haven't looked at your plans but one disadvantage of door into house is the cold. You can't insulate door easily and also can get draughts around door etc the garage in winter is pretty darn cold. Just a thought.
If you install a good quality insulated garage door and have a good fitting fire door into the house, then this shouldn't be an issue. Our previous house had a door into the garage from the kitchen, and I never noticed a draught, unless it was open!

Personally, I think building an attached garage without a door into the house is a bit mad.

JulianHJ

8,743 posts

262 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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We've got an attached garage which we use for storage - I'd definitely have secondary access if it were an option.

RoyalVilla

22 posts

117 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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If it were me and I wanted more garage space I'd prob reduce the size of the playroom and make it a small utility with doors leading into the house, garage and garden.
In winter / rain would be useful for kids / dogs coming in and out of garden (saves opening bifolds) and getting in and out of the garage.

GP335i

Original Poster:

466 posts

164 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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CoolHands said:
haven't looked at your plans but one disadvantage of door into house is the cold. You can't insulate door easily and also can get draughts around door etc the garage in winter is pretty darn cold. Just a thought.
This is a great point, if I go with a single door I'd be fitting an insulated Hormann entrance door (already have one on the house).

I think I've pretty much decided to leave the door out just now (but have lintels sized) and will decide later whether to go single or double opening depending on what I do with the space.

Some Gump

12,691 posts

186 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Pfft.

Batman pole in upstairs cupboard. Job jobbed.

stuartmmcfc

8,662 posts

192 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Not have a door from the utility into the garage and have to go out in the rain and snow to get into the car??
Couldn't slum it like that at my age smile