M3/4 in the wet
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Have been thinking about a new M3 f80 and was wondering how bad is it in the wet ?
Having had Audi's for most of my driving life I do like the ease of performance in wet conditions. Also having read a few reviews about the TC is very intrusive in the M3 has got me thinking if I would actually enjoy owning one.
Having had Audi's for most of my driving life I do like the ease of performance in wet conditions. Also having read a few reviews about the TC is very intrusive in the M3 has got me thinking if I would actually enjoy owning one.
rs4al said:
Have been thinking about a new M3 f80 and was wondering how bad is it in the wet ?
Having had Audi's for most of my driving life I do like the ease of performance in wet conditions. Also having read a few reviews about the TC is very intrusive in the M3 has got me thinking if I would actually enjoy owning one.
They aren't as bad as you may think but they are a bit traction limited at times but it depends on how lead footed you are.Having had Audi's for most of my driving life I do like the ease of performance in wet conditions. Also having read a few reviews about the TC is very intrusive in the M3 has got me thinking if I would actually enjoy owning one.
Also take a look at the Alpina B3/4 take them for a drive & see what you think.
JMBMWM5 said:
I drive with weather in mind, never had a problem with my LCI M5 or M6 GC CP both have much more "GO" than the M3/4.
This TBH you have to drive to the conditions in any car. High powered RWD car needs some respect shown to it in the wet, youll still be able to move quickly just not at 100%. Hawker
Must be Martians never even bothered with 335D's quick na not that quick.joscal said:
This why buy a rwd m car and expect it to be 4wd. Mind boggles.
There's been quite a few threads recently regarding the new breed of M3/4, it's ridiculous!There was one complaining of a test drive where he couldn't get the power down - no s
t sherlock, it was about 5 deg C at the time and probably damp.How people are seriously wondering why they can't get traction in a car with 425hp & 550Nm (over 150 more than the E9x) in the cold/damp/wet is beyond me.
Use you right bloody foot properly to regulate the throttle, learn to drive and enjoy the sideways moments!
I had a current model 335d xdrive estate give me a hard time in my M5 just before the Christmas holidays.
Typical of British roads at that time of year (wet, recently gritted), he had a lot more pace than I was expecting and bolted away from the roundabout a lot quicker than I was able to (the demonic traction light flickering away). It took until fairly silly speeds that I was able to pass him.
It doesn't need me to say that the M3/4/5/6 cars are quick, but in wintery conditions there are many 300bhp+ 4wd cars, including diesels, which will give them a run for their money. Underestimate them at your peril
In dry conditions there's no competition.
Typical of British roads at that time of year (wet, recently gritted), he had a lot more pace than I was expecting and bolted away from the roundabout a lot quicker than I was able to (the demonic traction light flickering away). It took until fairly silly speeds that I was able to pass him.
It doesn't need me to say that the M3/4/5/6 cars are quick, but in wintery conditions there are many 300bhp+ 4wd cars, including diesels, which will give them a run for their money. Underestimate them at your peril
In dry conditions there's no competition.
Andy M said:
I had a current model 335d xdrive estate give me a hard time in my M5 just before the Christmas holidays.
Typical of British roads at that time of year (wet, recently gritted), he had a lot more pace than I was expecting and bolted away from the roundabout a lot quicker than I was able to (the demonic traction light flickering away). It took until fairly silly speeds that I was able to pass him.
It doesn't need me to say that the M3/4/5/6 cars are quick, but in wintery conditions there are many 300bhp+ 4wd cars, including diesels, which will give them a run for their money. Underestimate them at your peril
In dry conditions there's no competition.
I have an F31 335xd in the family and there's no doubt its a formidable machine and quite an astonishing feat of engineering for its drivetrain - I'm certain a fan and nearly ordered one myself before I bought an M5 instead (man logic). I'd still consider buying one when the facelift appears just as a family / wife wagon and to absorb some business mileage. I don't doubt the superior traction and ability to get off the line more promptly on a wet road - I've learned myself in the last few weeks how difficut the M5 can be in the wet - but once rolling the diesel is going to have a hard time keeping up. In the "real world" the M cars advantage (especially M5) is that it will overtake literally anything that gets in the way, it will make light work of passing in places which would be marginal even to a 335d - having driven both on the same A roads I know well - the M is capable of things the diesel just can't pull off, by virtue of the extra power. To believe the extra power can't make a difference "in the real world" implies that that individual hasn't driven many M cars. Can't speak for M3/4 but power to weight is similar to M5 isn't it? The only way the 335d might cover ground faster over long distances is by virtue of its range.Typical of British roads at that time of year (wet, recently gritted), he had a lot more pace than I was expecting and bolted away from the roundabout a lot quicker than I was able to (the demonic traction light flickering away). It took until fairly silly speeds that I was able to pass him.
It doesn't need me to say that the M3/4/5/6 cars are quick, but in wintery conditions there are many 300bhp+ 4wd cars, including diesels, which will give them a run for their money. Underestimate them at your peril
In dry conditions there's no competition.
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