Another snapped drive shaft and another query or two

Another snapped drive shaft and another query or two

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mikeufo

68 posts

114 months

Saturday 11th April 2015
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Here you go - Just been working on mine and noticed that one side has an inner circlip and the other side does not!!
Also - a question - what do you need to do to cause this kind of damage and does anyone know what the correct part to order for the CV joint?

Supateg

742 posts

142 months

Saturday 11th April 2015
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From the parts list

http://www.prolinx.biz/pages/Products/ViewProduct/...

Get the hi spec boot too, re use your boot clamp or get TVR new. Get some synthetic cv grease (redline)
New bolts listed above too.

Looks like torsional damage on the shaft, it's ready to let go at the weakest point. I guess heat vibration has done the joint in.

Next time mine are apart it will inspect to see which type I have.

scerbera

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102 posts

114 months

Monday 4th May 2015
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scerbera

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102 posts

114 months

Monday 4th May 2015
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A couple of pics.

Can anyone tell me the thread on the cv bolts please, I forgot to order some and check thread and want to get asap!

Many thanks!

tofts

411 posts

156 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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Andy_mr2sc said:
scerbera said:
The temp of your oil is largely irrelevant. Colder oil will provide a thicker film with a higher resistance to shearing. And so give you higher load carrying. The only real area of concern in a cold engine, and we are only talking very initial startup is that your pistons could expand too quickly for the bore, depending of course on the tolerance. The piston and liner will warm in a few minutes and so with a 30 sec sit on the drive, a 1 min 30 mph limit and get out of the street the engine is warm enough. In my opinion of course.
That's really novel to hear somebody talking sense about warming engines up.

Edited by Andy_mr2sc on Wednesday 8th April 07:40
I don't see any engine builders recommending a 2 minute warm up. Especially as the AJP is effectively a race engine. Not to rock the car, but IMO I think that its not wise to suggest that you can comfortably drive these vehicles hard from just 2 minutes of gentle warming up!

Treat them with the respect they deserve!

That looks like some quality machining there btw!

Edited by tofts on Tuesday 5th May 02:21

Supateg

742 posts

142 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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scerbera said:


A couple of pics.

Can anyone tell me the thread on the cv bolts please, I forgot to order some and check thread and want to get asap!

Many thanks!
M10 x 1.25 60mm long
In the bolts list above......

scerbera

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102 posts

114 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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Supateg said:
M10 x 1.25 60mm long
In the bolts list above......
Thanks Supateg! I missed that, running on exhaustion at the moment.

macdeb

8,509 posts

255 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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I thought they were being made without the inner circlip groove?

scerbera

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102 posts

114 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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The shafts are larger than normal so it looks like there is a large groove. There is a fillet at the end of the spline to remove the rest material from using an end mill to cut splines. There is no need for an inner circlip the splines reduce and the diameter of shaft is above mating surface.

If i was to do it again i would do a little differently. The spline d was cut 2mm too far on reflection.

The main d on these are 33 so much bigger than what its replacing.

The previous one snapped on the profile which holds the end of the boot. No point that being there at all.

scerbera

85 posts

107 months

Wednesday 20th May 2015
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So the new shafts are installed and I couldn't resist filling her up and going for a drive. If these snap then i'll be very surprised! Awesome day!!


gruffalo

7,521 posts

226 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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Sounds like a cracking job you have done there.

How much lighter are your drive shafts over the originals and it could be worth you knocking a few sets up, a drive shaft letting go is something I always fear.

scerbera

85 posts

107 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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Hi Gruffalo. Many thanks!

They are not lighter, I didn't weigh them although can work it out later. They could be made lighter with equal strength of originals. Or as I have done slightly heavier but stronger. I used EN26W so a high strength option. I'm not sure of the originals. The weakest point will always be the section prior to the spline.

They are probably overkill but I do intend upping the output of the engine when I have time!

gruffalo

7,521 posts

226 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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scerbera said:
Hi Gruffalo. Many thanks!

They are not lighter, I didn't weigh them although can work it out later. They could be made lighter with equal strength of originals. Or as I have done slightly heavier but stronger. I used EN26W so a high strength option. I'm not sure of the originals. The weakest point will always be the section prior to the spline.

They are probably overkill but I do intend upping the output of the engine when I have time!
Thanks, the strength is key really, I have already gone down the extra power route and am just waiting to hear that bang.

scerbera

85 posts

107 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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Are you still on originals? If so you must be lucky!

These would probably work out at 300 for the pair. Possibly a fair bit cheaper if I could get bar stock a better starting size. Could probably have time in 6 weeks ish.

It will be good to see if I have any problems with these.

One problem I do have is a hugely leaky crank seal. Or at least it must be. Can it be replaced with engine in situ does anyone know?

mk1fan

10,517 posts

225 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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Not using Ti then?

gruffalo

7,521 posts

226 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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scerbera said:
Are you still on originals? If so you must be lucky!

These would probably work out at 300 for the pair. Possibly a fair bit cheaper if I could get bar stock a better starting size. Could probably have time in 6 weeks ish.

It will be good to see if I have any problems with these.

One problem I do have is a hugely leaky crank seal. Or at least it must be. Can it be replaced with engine in situ does anyone know?
Pretty sure it is engine out for both the front and rear crank seals.


ukkid35

6,175 posts

173 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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gruffalo said:
Pretty sure it is engine out for both the front and rear crank seals.
Front is easy as it's in a removable carrier (unless you have a very early engine apparently).

Rear is gearbox/clutch off.

mk1fan

10,517 posts

225 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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mk1fan said:
Not using Ti then?
Not sure how I missed page 2 last night. Wasn't drinking so maybe I need to wink

scerbera

85 posts

107 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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ukkid35 said:
Front is easy as it's in a removable carrier (unless you have a very early engine apparently).

Rear is gearbox/clutch off.
So can do it on ramps? The rear seal?

Supateg

742 posts

142 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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Yes,
But you might as well do clutch, slave etc etc

Before you do, oil pressure switch fails and leaks oil just like a crank leak
Check this first, it's under rear coil pack and it's a consumerble item.