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Palmers

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478 posts

111 months

Wednesday 8th April 2015
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If only i had the spare dollar wink

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-F350-DUALLY-/171742...


Edit: Just read through another thread on here about duallys and MOT's etc.

I got rid of my old 1st gen ram cummins 350 dually (ext cab, 8ft bed) because in my eyes i couldnt actually legally drive it.

It weighed only 2.7T empty, but had a GVWR of 4.5T. I can only drive (being a young-un) cars upto 3.5T, so i got shot not wanting to do a LGV test. Is this correct?...

Can you lower the GWVR via DVLA?

Chris

Edited by Palmers on Wednesday 8th April 14:38

Roo

11,503 posts

207 months

Wednesday 8th April 2015
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You used to be able to do a voluntary downrate of the GVW when applying for SVA. It had to be done if the truck had a GVW over 3500kg as that would've made it a commercial vehicle.

A lot of the earlier trucks came in with their GVW intact. We were allowed to downrate from 5500kg to 3500kg. The only proviso being it weighed less than 3425kg when weighed.

When they dropped SVA and replaced it with IVA they banned the downrating of truck GVWs. We just then made sure they met the criteria for M1 passenger car which has a maximum GVW of 6500kg.

Palmers

Original Poster:

478 posts

111 months

Wednesday 8th April 2015
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So you cant lower it anymore basically? Lol

Roo

11,503 posts

207 months

Wednesday 8th April 2015
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Nope. But check how they're registered.

If it's M1 and PLG it's classed as a car which can legally have a GVW up to 6500kg.

Palmers

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478 posts

111 months

Thursday 9th April 2015
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Roo said:
Nope. But check how they're registered.

If it's M1 and PLG it's classed as a car which can legally have a GVW up to 6500kg.
But i cant drive that because i have the license that restricts me to 3.5 correct??

Chris

Roo

11,503 posts

207 months

Thursday 9th April 2015
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Don't know I'm afraid.

I'm an old fart.

Palmers

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Thursday 9th April 2015
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Category B

You can drive vehicles up to 3,500kg Maximum Authorised Mass (MAM) with up to 8 passenger seats (with a trailer up to 750kg).

You can also tow heavier trailers if the total weight of vehicle and trailer isn’t more than 3,500kg.

You can drive motor tricycles with a power output higher than 15kW if you are over 21 years old.

Physically disabled drivers with provisional category B entitlement will also have provisional entitlement to ride category A1 or A motor tricycles.
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Thats the license restrictions for us young-uns, 3.5 T MAM.



Interesting read on the Gov website (Dec 2014)

Maximum authorised mass
Maximum authorised mass (MAM) means the weight of a vehicle or trailer including the maximum load that can be carried safely when it’s being used on the road.

This is also known as gross vehicle weight (GVW) or permissible maximum weight.

It will be listed in the owner’s manual and is normally shown on a plate or sticker fitted to the vehicle.

The plate or sticker may also show a gross train weight (GTW), also sometimes called gross combination weight (GCW). This is the total weight of the tractor unit plus trailer plus load.

[b]Down-plating
If a vehicle is unlikely to be used at its potential maximum weight, it may be ‘down-plated’. This means that a lower weight is shown on the plate or sticker attached to the vehicle.[/b]