The Official Manchester United Thread [Vol 5]
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Black can man said:
How's it going chaps ?
P off! 
As previously mentioned, we have done this before and won 5-3 but that was against some pub team
. Today's opponents are different class - partly down to us allowing it, but mainly cos they're damned good. (Today at least)
Great chance conjured from nothing by Martial, shame it wasn't low to the keeper's left eh? Maybe he reads this thread.
Come on you ...er... black'n'reds! Second half's there to be won pretty much for pride only.
57Ford said:
Today's opponents are different class - partly down to us allowing it, but mainly cos they're damned good. (Today at least)
"Today at least" is not far from the truth, but it's mainly Sanchez and Ozil; Sanchez is great every 3 to 4 matches, Ozil is in hibernation 3/4 of the season. Too bad they both chose today to do well.Walcott, Sanchez and Ozil with Carzola behind where class. 3-0 inside 20mins and no way we could come back from it. Sanchez is a different and unplayable at times. We where beaten fair and square.
If only Arsenal could do this every week they would potentially be league winners. With Chelsea out of the picture this is a 3 horse race.
If only Arsenal could do this every week they would potentially be league winners. With Chelsea out of the picture this is a 3 horse race.
Not a 3 horse race! Talk about knee-jerk reactions.
Arsenal are the same team they were last week. Flashes of brilliance but not good enough enough of the time.
City's title to lose (as always in recent years), and they might just be s
t enough to give Utd a chance. Chelsea have already dropped out of contention, and Arsenal flatter to deceive.
Arsenal are the same team they were last week. Flashes of brilliance but not good enough enough of the time.
City's title to lose (as always in recent years), and they might just be s
t enough to give Utd a chance. Chelsea have already dropped out of contention, and Arsenal flatter to deceive.ORD said:
Not a 3 horse race! Talk about knee-jerk reactions.
Arsenal are the same team they were last week. Flashes of brilliance but not good enough enough of the time.
City's title to lose (as always in recent years), and they might just be st enough to give Utd a chance. Chelsea have already dropped out of contention, and Arsenal flatter to deceive.
Totally agree and I'm an Arsenal fan.Arsenal are the same team they were last week. Flashes of brilliance but not good enough enough of the time.
City's title to lose (as always in recent years), and they might just be s
t enough to give Utd a chance. Chelsea have already dropped out of contention, and Arsenal flatter to deceive.
We were terrible in the first half. Arsenal were really lively right from kick off and we never got to grips with their pace and movement for the whole of the first half.
Alexis in particular was way too good for Darmian, who was poor, as was Ashley in the first half. The second half showed that we can keep the ball but cannot create enough chances to score more than a goal or two. We were getting very frustrated at the lack of ambition, bravery and skill to at least shoot when opportunities presented themselves.
Sobering, but fair result.
Alexis in particular was way too good for Darmian, who was poor, as was Ashley in the first half. The second half showed that we can keep the ball but cannot create enough chances to score more than a goal or two. We were getting very frustrated at the lack of ambition, bravery and skill to at least shoot when opportunities presented themselves.
Sobering, but fair result.
Edited by Alpinestars on Sunday 4th October 23:07
Arsenal were excellent the first twenty minutes,but we really allowed them to be so.
The team selection was shocking,firstly last season Valencia played Sanchez really well,he had the pace and strength to start with him,but as we know he didn't have a good game the other night.However Rooney hasn't had a good game all season and depay is a waste of space at the moment ,not sure what message that sends to the squad..some of you can be awful and you will be picked regardless ,others if you make a single mistake in a game will be dropped.
Anyway I'm digressing...young at left back,very odd especially having a player in front of him who doesn't track back .
A midfield comprising our 2 slowest players against one of the quicker moving midfields in the league.
Exactly the sort of game schneiderlin was needed in and he's sat on the bench ?
I take nothing away from Arsenal because they played perfectly against what they faced ,but what they faced was pathetic and a disgrace.
If he picks a similar team against city we will lose by 7 or 8 .
The team selection was shocking,firstly last season Valencia played Sanchez really well,he had the pace and strength to start with him,but as we know he didn't have a good game the other night.However Rooney hasn't had a good game all season and depay is a waste of space at the moment ,not sure what message that sends to the squad..some of you can be awful and you will be picked regardless ,others if you make a single mistake in a game will be dropped.
Anyway I'm digressing...young at left back,very odd especially having a player in front of him who doesn't track back .
A midfield comprising our 2 slowest players against one of the quicker moving midfields in the league.
Exactly the sort of game schneiderlin was needed in and he's sat on the bench ?
I take nothing away from Arsenal because they played perfectly against what they faced ,but what they faced was pathetic and a disgrace.
If he picks a similar team against city we will lose by 7 or 8 .
franki68 said:
Angry, disappointed stuff .
I agree with most of it but Schweinsteiger was probably ahead of Schneiderlin in my selection although I was then shocked at how clueless he looked in that first half hour. I'd have thought with his experience he'd be screaming at Depay to press instead of trying to do it himself and being repeatedly bypassed. Square pegs in round holes notwithstanding, was the system at fault as much as the lacklustre individual performances to some degree? And why did it take so long to change and firm up the defence?
Deeply concerning for me.
After my harking about Darmian always at RB I was shocked at how easily he was out maneuvered, Young also on the left. To be honest the only concern when looking at the starting 11 was the Carrick/BFS partnership - a glaring oversight by LVG. Schmidfield + Herrera in a midfield 3 would be nice to see at some point, Mata, Martial + one other ahead (coin toss between Fellaini, Rooney, Memphis & Pereira).
Saying that though all in all we didn't turn up, they did in the first 20 and that was that...the rest of the game was a dud...if I were Monsieur Wenger i would have gone for the jugular. As it happens it is just a 3-0 defeat on paper, overshadowed by the sacking of Rodgers and will quickly be forgotten about and hopefully a much needed good result at Everton (something which we havent done in a very long time) will put us back on track for top 4/3.
Saying that though all in all we didn't turn up, they did in the first 20 and that was that...the rest of the game was a dud...if I were Monsieur Wenger i would have gone for the jugular. As it happens it is just a 3-0 defeat on paper, overshadowed by the sacking of Rodgers and will quickly be forgotten about and hopefully a much needed good result at Everton (something which we havent done in a very long time) will put us back on track for top 4/3.
Big Raff said:
After my harking about Darmian always at RB I was shocked at how easily he was out maneuvered, Young also on the left. To be honest the only concern when looking at the starting 11 was the Carrick/BFS partnership - a glaring oversight by LVG. Schmidfield + Herrera in a midfield 3 would be nice to see at some point, Mata, Martial + one other ahead (coin toss between Fellaini, Rooney, Memphis & Pereira).
Saying that though all in all we didn't turn up, they did in the first 20 and that was that...the rest of the game was a dud...if I were Monsieur Wenger i would have gone for the jugular. As it happens it is just a 3-0 defeat on paper, overshadowed by the sacking of Rodgers and will quickly be forgotten about and hopefully a much needed good result at Everton (something which we havent done in a very long time) will put us back on track for top 4/3.
Pretty pessimistic looking for a top 4 finish! Anything worse than second will be a failure, to me anyway. The league is dross apart from City.Saying that though all in all we didn't turn up, they did in the first 20 and that was that...the rest of the game was a dud...if I were Monsieur Wenger i would have gone for the jugular. As it happens it is just a 3-0 defeat on paper, overshadowed by the sacking of Rodgers and will quickly be forgotten about and hopefully a much needed good result at Everton (something which we havent done in a very long time) will put us back on track for top 4/3.
ORD said:
Pretty pessimistic looking for a top 4 finish! Anything worse than second will be a failure, to me anyway. The league is dross apart from City.
It was a bad day at the office, Arsenals one player that would improve our team (Sanchez) maintained his current vein of form and before we had blinked we were out of it.Over the course of a season we will have results like this especially against our top 4 rivals, its not good, but I dont think its reason to panic either, with Wanger in charge they'll fluke a result like that over us once every 5-10 years, this was likely their highlight for the season and whilst we progress and improve they'll once again strive to grab failure from success
Big Raff said:
After my harking about Darmian always at RB I was shocked at how easily he was out maneuvered, Young also on the left. To be honest the only concern when looking at the starting 11 was the Carrick/BFS partnership - a glaring oversight by LVG. Schmidfield + Herrera in a midfield 3 would be nice to see at some point, Mata, Martial + one other ahead (coin toss between Fellaini, Rooney, Memphis & Pereira).
Saying that though all in all we didn't turn up, they did in the first 20 and that was that...the rest of the game was a dud...if I were Monsieur Wenger i would have gone for the jugular. As it happens it is just a 3-0 defeat on paper, overshadowed by the sacking of Rodgers and will quickly be forgotten about and hopefully a much needed good result at Everton (something which we havent done in a very long time) will put us back on track for top 4/3.
I think you need to step away from the panic button, it was one defeat. We aren't a great side yet, so expect plenty more of these as the season unfolds. I'd be a bit careful about Carrick on the scrap heap too. The PL is crap this season and we are somehow still realistically fighting for second with Arsenal. City will be 10 clear and out of sight by Christmas. That is a sad indictment of English football Saying that though all in all we didn't turn up, they did in the first 20 and that was that...the rest of the game was a dud...if I were Monsieur Wenger i would have gone for the jugular. As it happens it is just a 3-0 defeat on paper, overshadowed by the sacking of Rodgers and will quickly be forgotten about and hopefully a much needed good result at Everton (something which we havent done in a very long time) will put us back on track for top 4/3.
ORD said:
The league is dross apart from City.
That is a fair assessment; it has been for a while now.Arsenal did what they had to and then let you have the ball for 60 minutes. I think after 5-10 minutes of united having the ball, it was obvious that it wasn't going to take much to keep a clean sheet.
selym said:
That is a fair assessment; it has been for a while now.
Arsenal did what they had to and then let you have the ball for 60 minutes. I think after 5-10 minutes of united having the ball, it was obvious that it wasn't going to take much to keep a clean sheet.
That's a bit harsh! We had a few good chances. Rooney is becoming absurdly bad, though, which is worrying. Dropping him would be such a big deal in the press, but he just isn't performing.Arsenal did what they had to and then let you have the ball for 60 minutes. I think after 5-10 minutes of united having the ball, it was obvious that it wasn't going to take much to keep a clean sheet.
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