Disgruntled employee
Discussion
surveyor said:
I do recall a surveyor (not me) who was leaving a firm in a decent size city and expected them to mess him about on expenses. His solution was to return the keys, but leave the car in a random car park - to be identified on payment of expenses.
Very clever.surveyor said:
I think the Police did get involved...
Their word against his. Not like he would be driving it.
Jonny TVR said:
Called the Police and they have reported it as stolen. They have been really good and phoned me a couple of times already for more detail and will be searching cameras for it in the area she is from. Interesting how they can do that my car reg?!
There are anpr cameras on the way in an out of most towns/cities these days, its not widely publicised but they are there.Jonny TVR said:
Called the Police and they have reported it as stolen. They have been really good and phoned me a couple of times already for more detail and will be searching cameras for it in the area she is from. Interesting how they can do that my car reg?!
Will she technically be uninsured as well seeing as she's no longer in your employ? Assuming she's stupid enough to drive it.Jasandjules said:
Pit Pony said:
Are people so stupid ?
People keeping hold of company cars? Yes. Sadly.During a redundancy consultation meeting, I asked, if I were made redundant, could I borrow the lap top I had in my possession, for the three months that I would still be employed by them, but not working for them, and in front of witnesses, I asked them to write the answer down, so that they didn't forget when the time came.
When I was later told of my fate, (leave now, and we'll pay you for the next 3 months and 7 days), I asked again if it was okay to take their lap top, and return it once I'd got myself sorted. Again they said yes, and I asked them to write it down in the official record of the meeting, so I was not accused of theft.
7 days later, they rang me to ask if I wouldn't mind bringing it back cause head office wanted all no longer used lap tops of the 7500 people they'd made redundant returning so they could return them back to HP or whoever they leased them off.
It wasn't my lap top, so I duly complied. They declined to pay for my fuel, as technically they could have asked me to attend every day, for 3 months. I might want a reference one day, so being nice to the people you used to work with isn't exactly rocket science.
KrazyIvan said:
What exactly do you think Taken Without Consent is?
If she has been told to return the items, has been give ample opportunity to do so but reuses, then that IS a police matter, it's just no an emergency, hence the advice to ring a none 999 number
She was given the car. Note- that precludes dishonest appropriation (theft) and taking without consent.If she has been told to return the items, has been give ample opportunity to do so but reuses, then that IS a police matter, it's just no an emergency, hence the advice to ring a none 999 number
allergictocheese said:
She was given the car. Note- that precludes dishonest appropriation (theft) and taking without consent.
She was not "given the car", it is a company car she was given the use of, that right of use was removed, and she has refused to return it, ergo she is using it without the consent of its owner. TWOC, born out no by the police involvement.
KrazyIvan said:
allergictocheese said:
She was given the car. Note- that precludes dishonest appropriation (theft) and taking without consent.
She was not "given the car", it is a company car she was given the use of, that right of use was removed, and she has refused to return it, ergo she is using it without the consent of its owner. TWOC, born out no by the police involvement.singlecoil said:
But she didn't 'take' it either. To take something without consent you have to actually take it. It's not called 'driving without consent' or 'parking it somewhere without consent'. TWOC was brought in to deal with joyriders.
If you borrow something but are asked to return it, you then can be considered to be stealing it.KrazyIvan said:
allergictocheese said:
She was given the car. Note- that precludes dishonest appropriation (theft) and taking without consent.
She was not "given the car", it is a company car she was given the use of, that right of use was removed, and she has refused to return it, ergo she is using it without the consent of its owner. TWOC, born out no by the police involvement.Gassing Station | Business | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff