Ferris Callaghan's Day Off

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agtlaw

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Wednesday 15th April 2015
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We didn't need him in the end. Steve's 34 page report binned, plea basis agreed. 6 points and a bit of a fine for a 146 mph police chase. N.b. defendant apparently driving a bit slower than the police.


Edited by agtlaw on Wednesday 15th April 17:38

LoonR1

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177 months

Wednesday 15th April 2015
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The police chase bit linked to him keeping his licence doesn't sit well with me morally, although I'm imagining worst case type chase, rather than them just trying to catch up.

agtlaw

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Wednesday 15th April 2015
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Not really the kind of chase you see on TV. D passes unmarked police car, quite quickly - it's on video. Police driver pulls out (to follow) but is soon blocked by someone and had to then go 146 mph (GPS) to catch up. The prosecution "expert" wrote a 34 page report about average speeds - although in the end it was consigned to the waste paper basket. Originally dangerous driving. Ended up as speeding.

LoonR1

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Wednesday 15th April 2015
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Fair enough. So more the lesser end of "chase" as it was more trying to catch him. I've been the hare in one of those "chases" at least once.

tapereel

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116 months

Wednesday 15th April 2015
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agtlaw said:
We didn't need him in the end. Steve's 34 page report binned, guilty plea basis agreed. 6 points and a bit of a fine for a 146 mph police chase. N.b. defendant apparently driving a bit slower than the police.
Corrected that for you.

Didn't realize that "plea basis" was solicitor code for plead guilty.

I do smile every time I recall you telling that district judge that your client couldn't afford to pay his fine and the Crown's costs because he had your bill to pay. She wasn't impressed. Perhaps you could post up the occasions you have cost your clients dear with lost causes as well as those who you like to say you have saved.

pip-pip

agtlaw

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tapereel said:
Corrected that for you.

Didn't realize that "plea basis" was solicitor code for plead guilty.
You've corrected it wrongly as it was an agreed basis of plea. I wonder how much that 34 page report cost the taxpayer.

P.s. if D's fees were mentioned (Cumbria?) then it wouldn't have been quite in that context.

tapereel

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Wednesday 15th April 2015
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agtlaw said:
tapereel said:
Corrected that for you.

Didn't realize that "plea basis" was solicitor code for plead guilty.
You've corrected it wrongly as it was an agreed basis of plea. I wonder how much that 34 page report cost the taxpayer.

P.s. if D's fees were mentioned (Cumbria?) then it wouldn't have been quite in that context.
I'm not at all sure what the point is that you are attempting to make. The case would not have been brought in the first place if the report was not made. No report, no case, no plea, no fee for you and no fine and points for your client. The tax payer contributed nothing to the cost of the report.
So what is your point?
No the case was not in Cumbria and my context is spot-on and simply reflects the remarks of a DJ not yours.
I can't really see your purpose in making cheap shots with half a story but carry on if you want I've said my last on the matter.