Mintex 1144 pads squeal?

Mintex 1144 pads squeal?

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cp81

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325 posts

133 months

Saturday 18th April 2015
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Mintex 1144 recently put on my car all around with new discs. However brakes seem to squeal a lot.

Has anyone else used these pads?

I have plenty of copper grease between pads and Pistons on brakes, and no brake is sticking on too.

Any thoughts / comments would be great full.

Thanks

esso

1,849 posts

217 months

Saturday 18th April 2015
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I did exactly the same on my Cerb and had exactly the same issue, the pads squealed front and back,I also had my front discs skimmed and I`m sure the front pads contributed to the discs warping again. I ended up buying new front discs and fitted EBC Redstuff pads to the fronts, this resolved the problem but the rears still squealed so ended up changing them to EBC too.
My opinion is the Mintex pads are too hard for standard road use, they may be fine for track use where you can get heat into them, I raised this issue on PH previously and other people had different opinions but this was my experience with Mintex 1144 pads.
So.....the solution is.....fit EBC Redstuff....before you warp your discs!

GAjon

3,731 posts

213 months

Saturday 18th April 2015
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I'm a big fan of 1144's, but they do squeal in certain ambient conditions
I've never had any problems with them other than the noise.

Number 7

4,103 posts

262 months

Saturday 18th April 2015
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Its been donkeys years since I used 1144s, but they never squealed in my Wedge. DS3000 on the other hand were awful for noise (and rotor wear) but they are a full race pad. No squealing from the DS2500 pads in my Wedge which I've been running for some years now.

gruffalo

7,520 posts

226 months

Saturday 18th April 2015
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Putting the 3M anti squeal pads on the back of the pads has always worked for me.

cp81

Original Poster:

325 posts

133 months

Saturday 18th April 2015
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Do you have a part number or link for the 3M pads?

bobfather

11,171 posts

255 months

Saturday 18th April 2015
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Mintex 1144 squealed on my AP 4 pot callipers, I went through several others and finally settled on Frodo Racing pads. They still squeal after a long hard run but generally they are quiet

griff50tvr

320 posts

245 months

Saturday 18th April 2015
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I've had Mintex 1144 pads all round on my Griff for years and never had any squealing - just impressive stopping power.


KKson

3,403 posts

125 months

Saturday 18th April 2015
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I've got 1144's on my 350i. Brilliant pads but yes they do squeal if you don't have a shed load of copperslip on the back of them. I've retained the original anti-squeal shims so I smear the back of the pads plus both sides of the shims with copperslip and then all is quiet.

cp81

Original Poster:

325 posts

133 months

Sunday 19th April 2015
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Thanks guys. The noise driving out yesterday sent me mad!! People were looking at me, not for the sound of the engine but the bloody brakes...

I just use the car for normal road use, so what are good normal pads to use? I don't wish to purchase expensive pads again. Also any makes I should steer clear of??

Thanks

ChimpOnGas

9,637 posts

179 months

Sunday 19th April 2015
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cp81 said:
Thanks guys. The noise driving out yesterday sent me mad!! People were looking at me, not for the sound of the engine but the bloody brakes...

I just use the car for normal road use, so what are good normal pads to use? I don't wish to purchase expensive pads again. Also any makes I should steer clear of??

Thanks
Just go to Euro Car Parts and buy a set of Pagid pads, Pagid pads are used by many manufacturers from new and are super quality.

The car will brake perfectly and you'll have no squeal.

gruffalo

7,520 posts

226 months

Sunday 19th April 2015
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cp81 said:
Do you have a part number or link for the 3M pads?
I get mine here.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/191314514764?_trksid=p20...


blujay10

583 posts

230 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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Just had them fitted to my Chimaera along with EBC dimpled and grooved discs - silent as a church mouse! Do they get noiser with age?
Very impressed with the stopping power so far. I have a track day next week so will let you know if there is any deterioration

cp81

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325 posts

133 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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Mine are all new with new discs. They get worse with heat.

Ordered new normal pads and will be changing them in the week.

I just have standard discs too.

Have to admit very disappointed, as not a cheap pad. Only done few hundred miles on them.

ptholt

221 posts

278 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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I had a larger 4 pot kit fitted and went with Mintex 1144 pads as half the price of preferred ferodo.

Mechanic said to me when fittingthen - ooo not seen Mintex pads since the late 90's in the scooby & evo days but everyone stopped using them as they squeal so badly and nothing you can do to stop it...

fitted em to car, first drive awful noise on light-medium braking, doesnt seem to matter if i warm them up or not. Took them back apart loads more slip, still did it.

Dropped car into Taylor TVR last week, they heard me coming round the corner and made the same comment about the noise of Mintex.. new pads ordered, going to the more expensive Ferodo i should have had in the first place, now they cost even more after wasting money on the mintex frown

TVRinBFG

1,457 posts

284 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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Don't know if this is true or not, but I was told that if the 1144s were squealing you weren't using them hard enough and your driving style perhaps meant you shouldn't be using such a hard friction material anyway, but a more road orientated material. The Mintex 1144s in my Tamora do not squeal, but I don't consider myself to be paticularly hard on the brakes.

cp81

Original Poster:

325 posts

133 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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I found as they got warm and under light braking they squeal like a pig!!

Don't think any passenger would be too happy with me stamping on brakes for every stop. Noise is gone but from the partner (good lady) would probably give me more noise if drove like that....

blujay10

583 posts

230 months

Wednesday 29th April 2015
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Well I had a fantastic track day at Goodwood on Monday - Chimaera behaved impeccibly as usual. brakes were excellent and no squealing! BUT I drove to the station and they are just starting to squeal occassionally! i have the car booked in for a service beginning of June and so will see how they are then. Such a shame as they really were excellent for the track (Five 15 minute sessions of pretty hard driving, even by my sedate standards!)I find them great on the road as well.

ptholt

221 posts

278 months

Monday 4th May 2015
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light braking is the real problem, I am also finding myself leaving braking much later in traffic then having to really stamp on them to stop the damn noise, not good for the passenger and very worrying when you have to hope the person behind is awake and prepared to stand on the brakes as well.

Braking performance is VERY good, have no problems with that at all, and from high speed they really haul you up, but from 30mph and below you can hear them starting to squeal on on mid-light braking.

hot or cold doesn't seem to matter or make any difference to the noise, still hear me coming home from around the corner, except it not exhaust noise, its the brakes lol

GAjon

3,731 posts

213 months

Monday 4th May 2015
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As I wrote earlier in the thread Im a big fan.

Went to Anglesey circuit on Friday in my Mazda MPS with 1144's on the front, as usual squeaking and scraping away.
Did the day with lots of big stops, setting the emegency hazard warning lights off.

Bloody things are quiet as a mouse now, I know it wont last though.