Thatcher style Tory Lloyds sell off in 12montbs

Thatcher style Tory Lloyds sell off in 12montbs

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Welshbeef

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49,633 posts

198 months

Sunday 19th April 2015
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Another press release to unload all remaining shares within 12 months you can buy discounted shares £250-£10k per person and if you hold onto them for a year then there is a "loyalty" bonus.


A great thing to do -- I hope they also promise that (assuming RBS is also in a condition for for sale to the markets) by the end of the next parliment that too will be fully unloaded.

hidetheelephants

24,128 posts

193 months

Sunday 19th April 2015
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In what way is it Thatcher style any more than Blair style or Cable style?

Welshbeef

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Sunday 19th April 2015
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hidetheelephants said:
In what way is it Thatcher style any more than Blair style or Cable style?
It's just like the Br Gas 1980 privitiazation - according the The Telegraph.

turbobloke

103,854 posts

260 months

Sunday 19th April 2015
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"Blair & Cable aint got an ology"

motco

15,938 posts

246 months

Sunday 19th April 2015
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It's not as if they are selling off a long-term nationalised industry, but returning a lame duck to the private sector. Brown maimed the duck in the first place didn't he?

Trailhead

2,628 posts

147 months

Sunday 19th April 2015
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Where and when can I buy them?

Welshbeef

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Sunday 19th April 2015
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Trailhead said:
Where and when can I buy them?
If Tory win the election then they will do it before the end of May 2016.

robemcdonald

8,759 posts

196 months

Sunday 19th April 2015
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Haven't the tax payers already bought lloyds already?

Welshbeef

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Sunday 19th April 2015
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robemcdonald said:
Haven't the tax payers already bought lloyds already?
Unless you personally & every other person in the UK takes out a personal loan of c£30k to pay off the £1.5trillion debt then you have not. Your children's children's will

turbobloke

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260 months

Sunday 19th April 2015
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Welshbeef said:
Trailhead said:
Where and when can I buy them?
If Tory win the election then they will do it before the end of May 2016.
As long as they remember to tell Sid.

AmitG

3,289 posts

160 months

Sunday 19th April 2015
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Welshbeef said:
robemcdonald said:
Haven't the tax payers already bought lloyds already?
Unless you personally & every other person in the UK takes out a personal loan of c£30k to pay off the £1.5trillion debt then you have not. Your children's children's will
I think that robemcdonald makes a good point.

Lloyds was already bought using taxpayer money. The nation already owns it. To then "sell" it back to British nationals suggests that the nation is being asked to pay for something that it already owns.

All the Tories are really doing is asking people to write cheques to pay off the national debt, in return for direct exposure to the upside (or downside) of Lloyds stock.

I've simplified a bit, but that's how it looks to me.

Welshbeef

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Sunday 19th April 2015
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AmitG said:
Welshbeef said:
robemcdonald said:
Haven't the tax payers already bought lloyds already?
Unless you personally & every other person in the UK takes out a personal loan of c£30k to pay off the £1.5trillion debt then you have not. Your children's children's will
I think that robemcdonald makes a good point.

Lloyds was already bought using taxpayer money. The nation already owns it. To then "sell" it back to British nationals suggests that the nation is being asked to pay for something that it already owns.

All the Tories are really doing is asking people to write cheques to pay off the national debt, in return for direct exposure to the upside (or downside) of Lloyds stock.

I've simplified a bit, but that's how it looks to me.
UK tax payers have never paid for it - the Govt borrowed the money to bail it out.

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

204 months

Sunday 19th April 2015
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Welshbeef said:
Trailhead said:
Where and when can I buy them?
If Tory win the election then they will do it before the end of May 2016.
So it won't be sold then

Red Ed will probably shut it down so he can be seen to be punishing bankers

Then the few hundred well paid bankers the public hate will bog off to pastures new and the thousands of ordinary folk working for the bank will end up unemployed




speedy_thrills

7,760 posts

243 months

Sunday 19th April 2015
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Trailhead said:
Where and when can I buy them?
DYOR first.

Strange time to sell given the UKs financial position, cost of borrowing etc. Also why not just tranche them back onto the market progressively and get the best price?

Edited by speedy_thrills on Sunday 19th April 10:00

z4RRSchris

11,264 posts

179 months

Sunday 19th April 2015
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if you poor people vote for us we will give you free money and houses

greygoose

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195 months

Sunday 19th April 2015
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speedy_thrills said:
Trailhead said:
Where and when can I buy them?
Read the prospectus first.

Strange time to sell given the UKs financial position, cost of borrowing etc. Also why not just tranche them back onto the market progressively and get the best price?
That would seem the sensible option, but nobody feels they are getting something for nothing then.

Welshbeef

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Sunday 19th April 2015
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speedy_thrills said:
Read the prospectus first.

Strange time to sell given the UKs financial position, cost of borrowing etc. Also why not just tranche them back onto the market progressively and get the best price?
Because if you have mass ownership the public suddenly will stop bashing the bankers as the more they make the individual will gain from dividends and stock increases. Or of course so it's off loaded before the Europe collapse and its knock on impact to the bank

johnfm

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250 months

Sunday 19th April 2015
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AmitG said:
I think that robemcdonald makes a good point.

Lloyds was already bought using taxpayer money. [b]The nation already owns it. [/]To then "sell" it back to British nationals suggests that the nation is being asked to pay for something that it already owns.

All the Tories are really doing is asking people to write cheques to pay off the national debt, in return for direct exposure to the upside (or downside) of Lloyds stock.

I've simplified a bit, but that's how it looks to me.
Lol. Lloyds wasnt 'bought'. How many shares did UK gov buy? Not sure it's enough to 'own it' - they're just a large shareholder, selling off their shareholding to non-institutional investors.

Blaster72

10,816 posts

197 months

Sunday 19th April 2015
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Not sure I see the Thatcher link in this one confused

As said above seems more like a sneaky trick to get the public to buy shares in something that's already proven itself to be extremely dodgy once. Not for me thanks.

As for the poster above who said the public didn't bail them out, if the government borrows money to bail out the banks where exactly do you think the money comes from to pay back those loans???

AmitG

3,289 posts

160 months

Sunday 19th April 2015
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johnfm said:
Lol. Lloyds wasnt 'bought'. How many shares did UK gov buy? Not sure it's enough to 'own it' - they're just a large shareholder, selling off their shareholding to non-institutional investors.
I agree - that's why I said "I've simplified a bit".