Armani - AR1400

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joefraser

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725 posts

111 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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http://m.groupon.co.uk/deals/national-deal/gg-grou...

Just popped up on Groupon. I don't know a lot about watches but had been looking for something new, just for work use.

I own a few Storm/Omega/Nixon/Tag watches already,I like quite plain looking black watches- it's all I own.

Is this a good buy at the £189 price tag? Anything widely available you could recommend above it?

PJ S

10,842 posts

227 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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You're asking a bunch of snobs to approve a fashion brand, now that it's priced more like what it's actually worth?
You must've missed the unwritten rules memo that was sent round a while back!

If you like it, think it's priced attractively, etc, then never mind what we may think, but if you ever get bored of fashion branded quartz stuff, and are prepared to spend a reasonable sum, then keep reading and start off with looking at Steinhart and ChrWard, for something mechanical that may float your boat.

joefraser

Original Poster:

725 posts

111 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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PJ S said:
You're asking a bunch of snobs to approve a fashion brand, now that it's priced more like what it's actually worth?
You must've missed the unwritten rules memo that was sent round a while back!

If you like it, think it's priced attractively, etc, then never mind what we may think, but if you ever get bored of fashion branded quartz stuff, and are prepared to spend a reasonable sum, then keep reading and start off with looking at Steinhart and ChrWard, for something mechanical that may float your boat.
That's about as straight of a response as I'll get I imagine!

It was a very general question to be fair, I'm happy with a range of responses :-).

It's more whether it represents value or if I'm Paying for a £50 watch (i own plenty £50 watches i like already) with a brand name?

GC8

19,910 posts

190 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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Armani makes nice suits. Ive got a two or three now and Ive had several over the years. Theyre very good at it, for what they are.

They don't make watches though and I doubt that they do more than sign-off designs, if they even do that. This has no more credibility than an Oris suit, although I suspect that an Oris suit would be better than an Armani watch.

If you like it then you have to decide whether it represents value for money. Its a Fossil watch, as many other fashion brands are (which aren't Swiss). Its probably still about twice the going rate for a Fossil - does the style and the name make up for that to you?

traffman

2,263 posts

209 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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Hi Joefraser , if i were you i'd try and wait , save for something a little bit more desirable , ive seen inside those Armani watches . The movement is woefully teeny.

Your really paying for the name. Look at the Steinhart range , also some of the Seiko , citizen's. The Casio edifice aswell. I think it's the red bull one is a very attractive piece , and does carry some kudo's.

joefraser

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725 posts

111 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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GC8 said:
Armani makes nice suits. Ive got a two or three now and Ive had several over the years. Theyre very good at it, for what they are.

They don't make watches though and I doubt that they do more than sign-off designs, if they even do that. This has no more credibility than an Oris suit, although I suspect that an Oris suit would be better than an Armani watch.

If you like it then you have to decide whether it represents value for money. Its a Fossil watch, as many other fashion brands are (which aren't Swiss). Its probably still about twice the going rate for a Fossil - does the style and the name make up for that to you?
Thanks for the response, I did suspect it wouldn't be too different to what I already own- most of which cost less than this my a fair sum.

The style I do like, the name means nothing really and adds no value for me.

Thanks for the reply though.

mikeveal

4,570 posts

250 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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Mrs MikeVeal and I were in Dubai exactly a year ago. We booked a table at a place called Atmosphere in the burj khalifa. Me being me, I made sure we were there early so that we wouldn't miss out on any of the booked time...

So we're stuck at the bottom of this rather tall building with nothing to do for a while and a clear decision to make, either wait in the lobby like a pair of undesirables, or nip into the hotel bar for a pre-tipple tipple.

The hotel was the Armani hotel. It certainly had a style, and the bar had clearly been decorated / designed to create an effect.


Whether or not you like the style is completely subjective, but it's difficult to deny that they were trying very hard here.

You certainly paid a lot extra for the experience of drinking in an Armani bar. But the bar wasn't serving anything that you couldn't get else where. And although the decor may or may not have been to your taste, the seating was undeniably awful. Ruddy uncomfortable chairs. Clearly the way they looked was far more important than the comfort they provided, which to me is the wrong value set. To me, primarily a seat should be a comfortable place to sit, looks are secondary if not tertiary.


Armani appear to have a similar approach to their watches. Style over substance. They have even created a "low end" brand, Emporio Armani so that they can market the cheaper stuff on the back of their high price tag name without compromising the brand value of the higher end stuff.

EA watches are pretty cheap quartz watches, you're paying for the name. But the same can be said of many watches that people here will nod at and say nice things about.
At the end of the day, it's your wrist, you know what you like and if this watch meets your criteria, then go for it.

Here are a couple of Rado ceramic alternatives...
http://www.chrono24.com/en/rado/diastar-high-tech-...
http://www.chrono24.com/en/rado/diastar-g-0348071-...
Yeah I know, it's what we refer to here as budget creep.

joefraser

Original Poster:

725 posts

111 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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mikeveal said:
Mrs MikeVeal and I were in Dubai exactly a year ago. We booked a table at a place called Atmosphere in the burj khalifa. Me being me, I made sure we were there early so that we wouldn't miss out on any of the booked time...

So we're stuck at the bottom of this rather tall building with nothing to do for a while and a clear decision to make, either wait in the lobby like a pair of undesirables, or nip into the hotel bar for a pre-tipple tipple.

The hotel was the Armani hotel. It certainly had a style, and the bar had clearly been decorated / designed to create an effect.


Whether or not you like the style is completely subjective, but it's difficult to deny that they were trying very hard here.

You certainly paid a lot extra for the experience of drinking in an Armani bar. But the bar wasn't serving anything that you couldn't get else where. And although the decor may or may not have been to your taste, the seating was undeniably awful. Ruddy uncomfortable chairs. Clearly the way they looked was far more important than the comfort they provided, which to me is the wrong value set. To me, primarily a seat should be a comfortable place to sit, looks are secondary if not tertiary.


Armani appear to have a similar approach to their watches. Style over substance. They have even created a "low end" brand, Emporio Armani so that they can market the cheaper stuff on the back of their high price tag name without compromising the brand value of the higher end stuff.

EA watches are pretty cheap quartz watches, you're paying for the name. But the same can be said of many watches that people here will nod at and say nice things about.
At the end of the day, it's your wrist, you know what you like and if this watch meets your criteria, then go for it.

Here are a couple of Rado ceramic alternatives...
http://www.chrono24.com/en/rado/diastar-high-tech-...
http://www.chrono24.com/en/rado/diastar-g-0348071-...
Yeah I know, it's what we refer to here as budget creep.
Cheers for the opinion. It's not getting purchased, saw one in the flesh and it felt no different to my other work watches- if anything a bit lighter and not as solid as my usual brands.

That rado is perfect, budget isn't really a problem if I like it enough and that's a really smart watch- right in my criteria to.

Thanks for the nod in that direction, just need to find a local retailer now to have a holdown and try of it!

mikeveal

4,570 posts

250 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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You're more than welcome Joe, it's just an opinion. Everyone has one of those.
Please be aware that the Rados I've linked are second hand. If you're looking for something smart in black ceramic, Rado should definitely be on your list.

Rado invented the scratchproof watch way back in the 1962 with this Tungsten case (and saphire crystal):


Other variants are extremely popular in certain oil rich parts of the globe:


They've been making ceramic watches since 1986, and were the first watchmaker to do so.

keith2.2

1,100 posts

195 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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mikeveal said:
Mrs MikeVeal and I were in Dubai exactly a year ago. We booked a table at a place called Atmosphere in the burj khalifa. Me being me, I made sure we were there early so that we wouldn't miss out on any of the booked time...

So we're stuck at the bottom of this rather tall building with nothing to do for a while and a clear decision to make, either wait in the lobby like a pair of undesirables, or nip into the hotel bar for a pre-tipple tipple.

The hotel was the Armani hotel. It certainly had a style, and the bar had clearly been decorated / designed to create an effect.


Whether or not you like the style is completely subjective, but it's difficult to deny that they were trying very hard here.

You certainly paid a lot extra for the experience of drinking in an Armani bar. But the bar wasn't serving anything that you couldn't get else where. And although the decor may or may not have been to your taste, the seating was undeniably awful. Ruddy uncomfortable chairs. Clearly the way they looked was far more important than the comfort they provided, which to me is the wrong value set. To me, primarily a seat should be a comfortable place to sit, looks are secondary if not tertiary.


Armani appear to have a similar approach to their watches. Style over substance. They have even created a "low end" brand, Emporio Armani so that they can market the cheaper stuff on the back of their high price tag name without compromising the brand value of the higher end stuff.

EA watches are pretty cheap quartz watches, you're paying for the name. But the same can be said of many watches that people here will nod at and say nice things about.
At the end of the day, it's your wrist, you know what you like and if this watch meets your criteria, then go for it.

Here are a couple of Rado ceramic alternatives...
http://www.chrono24.com/en/rado/diastar-high-tech-...
http://www.chrono24.com/en/rado/diastar-g-0348071-...
Yeah I know, it's what we refer to here as budget creep.
Uncomfortable seats in a place like this isn't by accident.

If the drinks are expensive, the customers won't order very many - they'll take their time over the one that they order.

Rather than have a table and two chairs occupied by two people, nursing a cocktail for 45 minutes because it's comfy and they're having a lovely time - by having deliberately flawed ergonomics, the customers will want to finish their drink and leave. They can therefore sell two drinks to probably three couples in the same amount of time.

As for the watches - if you like the look then that's what you're paying for, but you're not getting an expensive movement (I say this as the owner of a £1k Gucci that I suspect has the same movement as my £300 Tissot - but I like it)

soad

32,882 posts

176 months

Saturday 25th April 2015
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Not a bad price, Amazon is asking more.

Janesy B

2,625 posts

186 months

Saturday 25th April 2015
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Just find a Fossil in a similar style. Same thing, less money.