Tesco - £5bn loss

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Puggit

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48,439 posts

248 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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Sky reporting that Tesco will announce an annual loss of over £5bn tomorrow!

FourWheelDrift

88,510 posts

284 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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Every little helps.

Defcon5

6,183 posts

191 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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How is that even possible?

Evolved

3,565 posts

187 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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Oh how the mighty can fall. Hardly ever use them nowadays.

Axionknight

8,505 posts

135 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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Defcon5 said:
How is that even possible?
You spend six billion pounds, but only take in one billion?

danjama

5,728 posts

142 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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I guess this is why they bought and stashed all that land/property smile

FredClogs

14,041 posts

161 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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So, share price, up or down?

Four Litre

2,019 posts

192 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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Something smells fishier than a rotting salmon

I wasn't aware Arthur Anderson were back doing accounts?

Axionknight

8,505 posts

135 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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FredClogs said:
So, share price, up or down?
Down 0.11% over the last day, the next few days will be interesting if this is the case........

Wacky Racer

38,157 posts

247 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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Can't see it myself....scratchchin

Poor figures yes.

Jack Cohen would be turning in his grave......


Countdown

39,865 posts

196 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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Defcon5 said:
How is that even possible?
Basically

You bought your house for £10bn. The surveyor has just valued it at £5bn. You've just lost £5bn

Cr Fixed Assets
Dr Reserves

My guess is that the CEO is writing everything down basically so that all the bad news can be blamed on the predecessor.

eldar

21,741 posts

196 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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Defcon5 said:
How is that even possible?
Revalue, downwards, all their lands' values?

sleep envy

62,260 posts

249 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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danjama said:
I guess this is why they bought and stashed all that land/property smile
At inflated prices.

Kerching.

Vaud

50,469 posts

155 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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Countdown said:
Basically

You bought your house for £10bn. The surveyor has just valued it at £5bn. You've just lost £5bn

Cr Fixed Assets
Dr Reserves

My guess is that the CEO is writing everything down basically so that all the bad news can be blamed on the predecessor.
This. Get rid of all the bad news.

Most company books are based on "what would you like the answer to be?"


Mermaid

21,492 posts

171 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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Countdown said:
Basically

You bought your house for £10bn. The surveyor has just valued it at £5bn. You've just lost £5bn

Cr Fixed Assets
Dr Reserves

My guess is that the CEO is writing everything down basically so that all the bad news can be blamed on the predecessor.
An accountants dream. biggrin & for those on new share options

tumble dryer

2,016 posts

127 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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Countdown said:
Basically

You bought your house for £10bn. The surveyor has just valued it at £5bn. You've just lost £5bn

Cr Fixed Assets
Dr Reserves

My guess is that the CEO is writing everything down basically so that all the bad news can be blamed on the predecessor.
This. Exactly.

Who wouldn't ensure a nice clean desk before getting stuck in...?

kiethton

13,895 posts

180 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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Countdown said:
My guess is that the CEO is writing everything down basically so that all the bad news can be blamed on the predecessor.
Pretty much this.

He will take the opportunity to reduce the standing to build it up in his own way going forward.

The uncertainty around supermarket leases has also pushed out yields on supermarket property (covenants not as strong as they were and little alternative use), tesco owns a substantial proportion of its real estate, through itself and their pension plan (plus other JV's with propco's). There is also a substantial pension deficit...

Remember these are all paper losses, not cash so as long as income remains sufficient to cover liabilities it's all good and it'll show better growth numbers medium term LfL

FredClogs

14,041 posts

161 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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tumble dryer said:
Countdown said:
Basically

You bought your house for £10bn. The surveyor has just valued it at £5bn. You've just lost £5bn

Cr Fixed Assets
Dr Reserves

My guess is that the CEO is writing everything down basically so that all the bad news can be blamed on the predecessor.
This. Exactly.

Who wouldn't ensure a nice clean desk before getting stuck in...?
So share price will rise after the announcement?

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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Vaud said:
Countdown said:
Basically

You bought your house for £10bn. The surveyor has just valued it at £5bn. You've just lost £5bn

Cr Fixed Assets
Dr Reserves

My guess is that the CEO is writing everything down basically so that all the bad news can be blamed on the predecessor.
This. Get rid of all the bad news.

Most company books are based on "what would you like the answer to be?"
+1

In the finance/markets sector I believe the practice is called 'Kitchen-Sinking'.

Basically you throw everything bad including the kitchen sink into the bad news pile so you can get it all out of the way (and blame the last CEO) before attempting to move the company forward.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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The thing is this land was purchased over a very long period of time and as today's prices are above the 2007 peak it raises questions as to were they inflated prices back then.. If so bonuses were paid out on those values.


Has the land been devalued too much?



Also chaps this means HMRC gets zero corporation tax this year and could be the case for years to come. Given they would normally pay a lot of tax half a billion maybe more that a massive impact to our public finances. Which department gets this now additional deficit.