Is this the worst claim of the GE?
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Arrived home in Glos this evening and found a flyer from one of the main parties.
It was very much possibly the funniest document I have seen in this GE.
The worst aspect was as follows:
A Strong Economic Foundation!
Labour will Balance the books
Labour will cut the deficit every year while securing the future of the NHS
The Tories have Left us with the slowest recovery in 100 years
The Tories have borrowed £200Bn more than they planned
Oh - Thank f
k they cleared that up for me as I hadn't realised the previous administration hadn't fked things up and everything is the Tories fault....
FFS - we are all doomed.....
ps - Sorry for another GE thread but I honestly thought this warranted its own special little place in NP&E
It was very much possibly the funniest document I have seen in this GE.
The worst aspect was as follows:
A Strong Economic Foundation!
Labour will Balance the books
Labour will cut the deficit every year while securing the future of the NHS
The Tories have Left us with the slowest recovery in 100 years
The Tories have borrowed £200Bn more than they planned
Oh - Thank f
k they cleared that up for me as I hadn't realised the previous administration hadn't fked things up and everything is the Tories fault....FFS - we are all doomed.....
ps - Sorry for another GE thread but I honestly thought this warranted its own special little place in NP&E
Rather a slow recovery that a rapid decline, I suppose. Was Jamie Reed on there explaining how they're securing the NHS?
The only poor thing about claims like this is the public at large generally eat them up. Surprised there hasn't been some false advertising lawsuits knocking about this GE.
The only poor thing about claims like this is the public at large generally eat them up. Surprised there hasn't been some false advertising lawsuits knocking about this GE.
Lying about the political opponents in your constituency is in breach of electoral law and results can be overturned and candidates banned (remember Phil Woolas). It's about time we had something similar for lying in general in politics.
It will never happen though as they all tell porkies, just some are worse than others.
It will never happen though as they all tell porkies, just some are worse than others.
Slaav said:
Arrived home in Glos this evening and found a flyer from one of the main parties.
It was very much possibly the funniest document I have seen in this GE.
The worst aspect was as follows:
A Strong Economic Foundation!
Labour will Balance the books
Labour will cut the deficit every year while securing the future of the NHS
The Tories have Left us with the slowest recovery in 100 years
The Tories have borrowed £200Bn more than they planned
Oh - Thank fk they cleared that up for me as I hadn't realised the previous administration hadn't fked things up and everything is the Tories fault....
FFS - we are all doomed.....
ps - Sorry for another GE thread but I honestly thought this warranted its own special little place in NP&E
I've seen that. It really does take the friggin biscuit. How damn stupid do Labour think people are?It was very much possibly the funniest document I have seen in this GE.
The worst aspect was as follows:
A Strong Economic Foundation!
Labour will Balance the books
Labour will cut the deficit every year while securing the future of the NHS
The Tories have Left us with the slowest recovery in 100 years
The Tories have borrowed £200Bn more than they planned
Oh - Thank f
k they cleared that up for me as I hadn't realised the previous administration hadn't fked things up and everything is the Tories fault....FFS - we are all doomed.....
ps - Sorry for another GE thread but I honestly thought this warranted its own special little place in NP&E
Guybrush said:
I've seen that. It really does take the friggin biscuit. How damn stupid do Labour think people are?
It's because they are either thick, or have a vested interest so need the money to keep coming else it's big changes for them personally. Milliband keeps saying now about the IFS that they don't understand his view of how things will turn out therefore as voters you should believe him.
In which case why at PM questions over the years and ED balls over the years use IFS comments when it for their arguement against Tory's against them? You cannot have it both ways.
Reminds me of SNP and the Pro Yes campaign they championed the GERS independant group who analysed historic data so they loved the 2010.11 & 2011.12 data and used it all the time yet when 2012.13 & 2013.14 and now 2014.15 has come out and gives an utterly different view SNP rubbishes them....
. Must think the voting public were born yesterdayWelshbeef said:
It's because they are either thick, or have a vested interest so need the money to keep coming else it's big changes for them personally.
Milliband keeps saying now about the IFS that they don't understand his view of how things will turn out therefore as voters you should believe him.
In which case why at PM questions over the years and ED balls over the years use IFS comments when it for their arguement against Tory's against them? You cannot have it both ways.
Reminds me of SNP and the Pro Yes campaign they championed the GERS independant group who analysed historic data so they loved the 2010.11 & 2011.12 data and used it all the time yet when 2012.13 & 2013.14 and now 2014.15 has come out and gives an utterly different view SNP rubbishes them..... Must think the voting public were born yesterday
Another problem is that a lot of the general public have the memory of a goldfish or are just thick.Milliband keeps saying now about the IFS that they don't understand his view of how things will turn out therefore as voters you should believe him.
In which case why at PM questions over the years and ED balls over the years use IFS comments when it for their arguement against Tory's against them? You cannot have it both ways.
Reminds me of SNP and the Pro Yes campaign they championed the GERS independant group who analysed historic data so they loved the 2010.11 & 2011.12 data and used it all the time yet when 2012.13 & 2013.14 and now 2014.15 has come out and gives an utterly different view SNP rubbishes them....
. Must think the voting public were born yesterdayWe were watching Cameron on the news re the slurs against him, blaming him for the deaths in the Med. DC made the mistake of saying 'I will let you decide what to make of those slurs' or similar when he should have rammed home:
'It is disgusting and repellant to score cheap Political points over a human crisis affecting all of Europe and not only should EM publicly apologise, he should by definition share any responsibility personally as he voted FOR the intervention! The man is an utter hypocrite and I am embarrassed; as this country and his own Labour Party should be by these disgusting and unprofessional statements and cheap point scoring! This shames EM and the Labour Party! I thought he was better than this? He obviously isn't.'
Or similar?
Labour are the much better party in opposition as they are simply nastier and harder when they need to be in order to sway voters. The will resort to pure rhetoric and damn lies to make their points as the leaflet I received shows.
EM was on yesterday (I think) saying we need details, not rhetoric! 'Saying something needs to change and something needs to be done, simply isn't enough! We need details.... Or is it all just hot air and bluster' or similar.
Give me strength!!!!
boyse7en said:
MarshPhantom said:
Yet many on here buy Tory BS hook, line and sinker.
free money for all, isn't that the Tory mantra for now?Only a moron would say that.
btw, i am not a Conservative supporter but I hate noisy idiocy.
For me the one thing that really, desperately needs to change is the whole manifesto bullst circus act.
Manifesto promises need to be legally binding imho.
Itd cut out all this crap they see fit to pad them with and make them directly accountable to the law if I had my way, they need to know that if it goes in the manifesto then it must be done in the lifetime of the parliament otherwise jailtime for the ones in charge, thatd stop them from churning out their toilet paper promises.
Itd also stop them spunking out every other promise to gain votes the way they currently do.
t circus act.Manifesto promises need to be legally binding imho.
Itd cut out all this crap they see fit to pad them with and make them directly accountable to the law if I had my way, they need to know that if it goes in the manifesto then it must be done in the lifetime of the parliament otherwise jailtime for the ones in charge, thatd stop them from churning out their toilet paper promises.
Itd also stop them spunking out every other promise to gain votes the way they currently do.
NicD said:
Are you equating a reduction in personal TAXATION with 'free money'
Only a moron would say that.
btw, i am not a Conservative supporter but I hate noisy idiocy.
No I wasn't. Only a moron would say that.
btw, i am not a Conservative supporter but I hate noisy idiocy.
Your right, so I'd stop saying it if I were you
I'm not a Labour supporter and I hate blinkered name-calling
McWigglebum4th said:
4v6 said:
Itd also stop them spunking out every other promise to gain votes the way they currently do.
AGREEIt is disgusting what is happening up here with the SNP buying the votes of folk with free everything
t, we have no money, the interest is costing a fortune and none of you would ever run you personal finances like this, we can't give (other peoples) money to everyone one"Willy Nilly said:
It seems the every time an "interest group" (I really can't think of a better term) comes along, each party falls over themselves to give them money or stuff. Why can't one of the partys just stand up and say "we can't afford this st, we have no money, the interest is costing a fortune and none of you would ever run you personal finances like this, we can't give (other peoples) money to everyone one"
I would vote for that!t, we have no money, the interest is costing a fortune and none of you would ever run you personal finances like this, we can't give (other peoples) money to everyone one"
MarshPhantom said:
Guybrush said:
I've seen that. It really does take the friggin biscuit. How damn stupid do Labour think people are?
Yet many on here buy Tory BS hook, line and sinker.Have, or have the Tories not, presided over a period of economic recovery (think about this one, even Ed and Balls accept that they have), reduced the deficit and significantly reduced unemployment.
Other than that the NHS is certainly no worse, if not much better than it was 5 years ago, the same applies to education and immigration, notwithstanding the Tories haven't achieved their goals.
Now, whose BS smells worse?
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