Simple Accounts

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Kinkell

Original Poster:

537 posts

187 months

Saturday 25th April 2015
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My accountant has retired and rather than paying someone new, I would like to do my own tax return. My turnover is below vat threshold and I am a sole trader working as a garden contractor. Any help is appreciated.

Eric Mc

122,029 posts

265 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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HMRC allows small traders to prepare basic cash accounts i.e. cash in less cash out.

Also, small sole traders can show simple three line accounts i.e.

Income
Expenditure
Profit/Loss

So, technically, accounts such as this could be prepared without professional assistance.

Kinkell

Original Poster:

537 posts

187 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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Thanks, I used to do this before self assessment and higher turnover took hold. I've read on HMRC site that £ 14,500 personal and 1 vehicle allowance/costs before tax is payable.

Eric Mc

122,029 posts

265 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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I haven't got a clue what you are talking about - and I'm an accountant.

But, who needs accountants?

zedstar

1,736 posts

176 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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I'd love to know too

Kinkell

Original Poster:

537 posts

187 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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Eric Mc said:
I haven't got a clue what you are talking about - and I'm an accountant.

But, who needs accountants?
10k personal allowance
4.5k allowance for business vehicle
Simple

CoolHands

18,633 posts

195 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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Sounds like you'll be fine

Eric Mc

122,029 posts

265 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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Kinkell said:
10k personal allowance
4.5k allowance for business vehicle
Simple
What is this £4,500 allowance you are talking about for a business vehicle? Are you misunderstanding the 45p mileage claim and how it is applied?

The standard personal tax allowance is actually £10,600 now.

Kinkell

Original Poster:

537 posts

187 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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It's 10,000 miles@45p=4.5k flat rate rather than actual running cost of vehicle over same mileage. Hence the 14.5k allowance before tax. Now + 600, thanks.

Johnrosk

121 posts

125 months

Wednesday 29th April 2015
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Download a a copy of DIY Accounting Sole Trader software. £20.00. It is in Excell format and very simple to use.

Eric Mc

122,029 posts

265 months

Wednesday 29th April 2015
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Kinkell said:
It's 10,000 miles@45p=4.5k flat rate rather than actual running cost of vehicle over same mileage. Hence the 14.5k allowance before tax. Now + 600, thanks.
There is no such fixed "allowance".

The rule say that a trader can claim UP TO 10,000 business miles at 45p per mile and 25P per mile for all business miles over and above the 10,000.

BUT, if you only had 6,000 business miles in the year, you can only claim 6,000 @ 45p.

HMRC expects that a trader keeps supporting records showing the actual business miles carried out in the year - such as appointment notes or a work diary.

There are also clear and precise rules as to what constitutes "business miles" so a trader needs to be clear they understand what type of mileage is claimable.

Have a read of the recent tax case "Samadian V HMRC" to see where a trader - and his accountant - can come unstuck.