Crazy R8 vs bikes video

Crazy R8 vs bikes video

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wormus

14,509 posts

202 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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ZX10R NIN said:
I have to be honest and say that the R8 is well driven but he is taking on 600cc Sportsbikes also you can't underestimate what a difference not having boots & leathers on will make but to not be wearing gloves the guy must have Iron hands.

Had he taken on a 1000cc Sportsbike he'd have lost, but he could only take on what he saw at the time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTv1BvEWyro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zb1j8FmW74

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wael3IrPu44

One of the main reasons bikes top out at the 190mph mark is gearing but at the same time that's what gives the bikes their blistering acceleration.

A production car won't touch a production 1000cc sportstbike IMO shoot
Love this. And when you start modifying, the gap becomes even wider. Still resisting the temptation to strap a turbo to my ZZR. smile

ZX10R NIN

27,495 posts

124 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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br d said:
I just had a quick look at quarter mile times for an Yamaha R1 and a Mclaren 650S, seem to be about the same give or take a tenth. With decent rider/driver on an average road with plenty of curves wouldn't they be level?
What are the 0-100mph times.

Drag strip: GT2 vs 1199 Quarter Mile
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zb1j8FmW74

Drag race in the wet:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTAUV1Yj4NE

popeyewhite

19,628 posts

119 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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br d said:
ZX10R NIN said:
A production car won't touch a production 1000cc sportstbike IMO shoot
I just had a quick look at quarter mile times for an Yamaha R1 and a Mclaren 650S, seem to be about the same give or take a tenth. With decent rider/driver on an average road with plenty of curves wouldn't they be level?
The car would win, most likely. This debate has been done many times over the years.

frisbee

4,958 posts

109 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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popeyewhite said:
The car would win, most likely. This debate has been done many times over the years.
Nope, on an average road the car gets stuck behind a caravan/truck/bus/group of cyclists just as he gets to the interesting twisty bits, by the time he gets past the biker is already at home tucking into his tea.

wormus

14,509 posts

202 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

254 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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ZX10R NIN said:
I have to be honest and say that the R8 is well driven but he is taking on 600cc Sportsbikes also you can't underestimate what a difference not having boots & leathers on will make but to not be wearing gloves the guy must have Iron hands.

Had he taken on a 1000cc Sportsbike he'd have lost, but he could only take on what he saw at the time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTv1BvEWyro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zb1j8FmW74

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wael3IrPu44

One of the main reasons bikes top out at the 190mph mark is gearing but at the same time that's what gives the bikes their blistering acceleration.

A production car won't touch a production 1000cc sportstbike IMO shoot
You could probably buy about ten litre sports bikes for the cost of the R8 as well.

br d

8,388 posts

225 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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ZX10R NIN said:
br d said:
I just had a quick look at quarter mile times for an Yamaha R1 and a Mclaren 650S, seem to be about the same give or take a tenth. With decent rider/driver on an average road with plenty of curves wouldn't they be level?
What are the 0-100mph times.
With a brief search I found 5.5 for the R1,650s is 5.7.

I still don't think there would be much in it (given an empty road).

jimmy156

3,681 posts

186 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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Average rider Vs Average Driver on a normal twisty A or B road and the bike won't see where the car went. Almost any car.

Most riders don't have the balls to commit like you need to to go fast on the public road and i don't blame them.

A friend on a Aprillia RSV couldn't keep up on a mildly twisty but completely unsighted A road.

To be fair he has only been riding a year or so, but his bike has almost the power of my car! (Cooper S)

ZX10R NIN

27,495 posts

124 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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I think you'll find a lot of riders more than capable of showing a clean pair of heels to 650s or otherwise especially on an A road where give & take is the norm. Your mate obviously wasn't confident on the bike yet because a 128bhp RSV would leave your Cooper S but it's about the rider/driver.

I have had fun with a few cars very few driven well enough to get beaten but truth be told traffic gets in the way to make a true comparison, there have been a few interesting Motorway runs where things started to get tasty but yet again traffic put paid to the drivers efforts.

AntiLagGC8

1,724 posts

111 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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ZX10R NIN said:
I think you'll find a lot of riders more than capable of showing a clean pair of heels to 650s or otherwise especially on an A road where give & take is the norm. Your mate obviously wasn't confident on the bike yet because a 128bhp RSV would leave your Cooper S but it's about the rider/driver.

I have had fun with a few cars very few driven well enough to get beaten but truth be told traffic gets in the way to make a true comparison, there have been a few interesting Motorway runs where things started to get tasty but yet again traffic put paid to the drivers efforts.
I very much doubt it. A 650s is a very, very fast car with a massive traction and braking advantage on a A road and where the road has a less than perfect surface the 650s gains an even bigger advantage.

Bikes are extremely fast but only in the right conditions.

ZX10R NIN

27,495 posts

124 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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AntiLagGC8 said:
I very much doubt it. A 650s is a very, very fast car with a massive traction and braking advantage on a A road and where the road has a less than perfect surface the 650s gains an even bigger advantage.

Bikes are extremely fast but only in the right conditions.
Well you'd better tell the two guys one in a 911 turbo & his mate in the MP4-12C who tried it on last weekend as I was leaving Brands Hatch last week to try harder then, as I left them for dead on a run from Eynsford to Edenbridge.


Mclaren vs Bike
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IteniLcLImU



Edited by ZX10R NIN on Monday 27th April 00:09

popeyewhite

19,628 posts

119 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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ZX10R NIN said:
AntiLagGC8 said:
I very much doubt it. A 650s is a very, very fast car with a massive traction and braking advantage on a A road and where the road has a less than perfect surface the 650s gains an even bigger advantage.

Bikes are extremely fast but only in the right conditions.
Well you'd better tell the two guys one in a 911 turbo & his mate in the MP4-12C who tried it on last weekend as I was leaving Brands Hatch last week to try harder then, as I left them for dead on a run from Eynsford to Edenbridge.
So there!

AntiLagGC8

1,724 posts

111 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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popeyewhite said:
ZX10R NIN said:
AntiLagGC8 said:
I very much doubt it. A 650s is a very, very fast car with a massive traction and braking advantage on a A road and where the road has a less than perfect surface the 650s gains an even bigger advantage.

Bikes are extremely fast but only in the right conditions.
Well you'd better tell the two guys one in a 911 turbo & his mate in the MP4-12C who tried it on last weekend as I was leaving Brands Hatch last week to try harder then, as I left them for dead on a run from Eynsford to Edenbridge.
So there!
So true! hehe

ZX10R NIN

27,495 posts

124 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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AntiLagGC8 said:
popeyewhite said:
ZX10R NIN said:
AntiLagGC8 said:
I very much doubt it. A 650s is a very, very fast car with a massive traction and braking advantage on a A road and where the road has a less than perfect surface the 650s gains an even bigger advantage.

Bikes are extremely fast but only in the right conditions.
Well you'd better tell the two guys one in a 911 turbo & his mate in the MP4-12C who tried it on last weekend as I was leaving Brands Hatch last week to try harder then, as I left them for dead on a run from Eynsford to Edenbridge.

Mclaren vs bike
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IteniLcLImU
So there!
So true! hehe
I haven't had the pleasure of meeting a 650S yet so until then I'll getmecoat

Edited by ZX10R NIN on Monday 27th April 00:27

Matt UK

17,650 posts

199 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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CrutyRammers said:
it pains me to see a car getting so close to a bike
Agreed

robm3

4,927 posts

226 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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Matt UK said:
CrutyRammers said:
it pains me to see a car getting so close to a bike
Agreed
Especially at 2.48 in...

RumbleOfThunder

3,546 posts

202 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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The biker boyz are very defensive, again. laugh. There cannot be an instance of a car beating a bike in any way without someone chirping up that it's braver to be on a bike, it's more fun on a bike or "what about teh turbo busa pmsl ghost rider it only cost 1000 quid m8".

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

254 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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RumbleOfThunder said:
The biker boyz are very defensive, again. laugh. There cannot be an instance of a car beating a bike in any way without someone chirping up that it's braver to be on a bike, it's more fun on a bike or "what about teh turbo busa pmsl ghost rider it only cost 1000 quid m8".
If it takes a £120,000 car to get past an ageing 600cc sports bike, what's to be defensive about? Don't forget that most bike riders are also car drivers, but most car drivers don't have the bks to put their leg over a sports bike.

You seem to think your view is the only correct one, so what bike do you ride?

Edited by Mr2Mike on Monday 27th April 08:00

RemaL

24,967 posts

233 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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HAHA only got to 28 seconds and already spotted a rather silly mistake. 201BHP ZX10. I don't think so. Maybe 180 give or take BHP at the crank but 170'ish at the back wheel. 201BHP Zx10 my arse

HarryW

15,150 posts

268 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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Seriously shocking tbh.